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White Dials #558550
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Just waiting for the LEDs now.


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Lang may yer lum reek
Re: White Dials [Re: BobtheTrain] #558555
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Looks good Bob.


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Re: White Dials [Re: BobtheTrain] #558556
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That looks good and it can do 180mph!

By the way, I watched Question time last night, there was a guy in the audience who looked exactly like your picture, wasn’t you was it?

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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Looks good Bob.

Thanks, Graham

Originally Posted By ewn
That looks good and it can do 180mph!

By the way, I watched Question time last night, there was a guy in the audience who looked exactly like your picture, wasn’t you was it?

Thanks Ewn. No. it wasn't me.


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Re: White Dials [Re: BobtheTrain] #558561
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Trip meter in the tachometer, I've not seen that before.

What format LEDs do you need? I have quite a few. The major difficulty for me has been to match the colours followed be getting the right level of light for each instrument. This was compounded by the fact that some of the new instruments had LEDs built in.


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Re: White Dials [Re: Gambalunga] #558562
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Hello Peter,
Thanks for the offer but I already have them ordered. Coloured for the warning lights and green for the dial illumination. Made so that they work pos over neg or neg over pos. Originally land rover style!


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Re: White Dials [Re: BobtheTrain] #558572
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I dont normally go for electronic bells and whistles - much of what is installed on top end cars is unnecessary and aimed only at gadget freeks. But that said I really like the fully electronic displays of the sort that McLaren use. Programmable to show different screens just like your PC, so for a track day for example, there is a dominant rev counter with rev limiter lights and oil pressure and temperature. And of course the colour changes.

Dont know whether this link will work but .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT2Lc5rpVJc

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Originally Posted By howard
I dont normally go for electronic bells and whistles - much of what is installed on top end cars is unnecessary and aimed only at gadget freeks.

The reason I am changing to LEDs is so that I can actually see the warning lights when the hood is down.


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Re: White Dials [Re: BobtheTrain] #558588
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Bob.
camera please once you’ve got them installed.
They will look great in the car.

(Of course, my modest 4/4 already has off-white dials as standard. wink innocent)



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Re: White Dials [Re: ewn] #558604
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[quote=ewn]That looks good and it can do 180mph!

laugh2 First thing my grandson checks out when he gets in any car


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Originally Posted By Budster
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camera please once you’ve got them installed.
They will look great in the car.

(Of course, my modest 4/4 already has off-white dials as standard. wink innocent)

Thank you Budster. Will do.

Originally Posted By CooperMan
[quote=ewn]That looks good and it can do 180mph!

laugh2 First thing my grandson checks out when he gets in any car

Thank you CooperMan. Never actually tried!


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Re: White Dials [Re: howard] #558669
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[quote=howard]But that said I really like the fully electronic displays of the sort that McLaren use. Programmable to show different screens just like your PC, so for a track day for example, there is a dominant rev counter with rev limiter lights and oil pressure and temperature. And of course the colour changes.[unquote]

Agreed it’s impressive and I do like it. Having said that, it’s possible to restore, rebuild or even recreate electro mechanical instruments for what we now think of as classic cars but I wonder how feasible it will be to keep cars like the McLaren running in say 40 years time if they have programmable screens and a high reliance on computing.

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I wonder myself. I was once told a story that McLaren had trouble doing some work on an original P1, the car with the gold foil insulation. The problem was that they only had Windows 7 computers and the P1 needed to be linked up to something running 3.1 McLaren had to go onto ebay to buy an old computer. laugh

What happens when the ECU fails on a 20 year old car. Not only wont there be old style ECUs available, but who will have access to the progam to download it. After all, modern car ecus run far more than the engine. Things like ABS, the soft top mechanism, the blue tooth link etc etc.

I am not enough of a geek to know the answer.

Re: White Dials [Re: BobtheTrain] #558784
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I am convinced that there will be a market for retro software, old PC systems and so on. You should be able to emulate all this, even if it is new hardware, in the car or in the PC.
I don't look so negatively into the future. And important parts can originate from a 3D printer.

Re: White Dials [Re: Heinz] #558787
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I think you are right Heinz. It will be at a cost though that might rule out more mundane future classics.

I look at my latest acquisition with its very simple loom, voltage regulator, Dynamo 6 volts, no wipers, graduated stick for a fuel gauge 🙄 and a Boyce Motometer on top of the radiator cap for temperature. How things have moved on!


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Re: White Dials [Re: BobtheTrain] #558808
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Nerds question... Is it possible to convert an ECU engine to run on the old systems before ECUs. know it will affect emissions. Just an idle thought.


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Re: White Dials [Re: Ray] #558819
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Yes. But, you might not manage it with some of the rather complex modern motors.
There are at least two earlier Morgans running around with later engines using carburettors rather than EFI. The emissions tests for them are based on the vehicle age - they wouldn't pass on engine date.

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Re: White Dials [Re: Northernmorgan] #558821
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Originally Posted By Northernmorgan
I think you are right Heinz. It will be at a cost though that might rule out more mundane future classics.

I agree John. I think very few cars that were manufactured from 2000 on will ever be viable future classics. Replacing electronic components will be nearly impossible. Take, for example, the instrument cluster on the last Roadster. Engine management becomes more difficult with the advent of direct injection (GDI) engines and so on.


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Originally Posted By Northernmorgan
I think you are right Heinz. It will be at a cost though that might rule out more mundane future classics.

I look at my latest acquisition with its very simple loom, voltage regulator, Dynamo 6 volts, no wipers, graduated stick for a fuel gauge 🙄 and a Boyce Motometer on top of the radiator cap for temperature. How things have moved on!


I am not sure that even those may not be to advanced for you to deal with oldgit laugh2 laugh2 laugh2


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