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#558809 - 09/02/19 02:25 PM what3words: the new way to find places
Peter J Offline
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This is amazing....
I discovered it because it is built into the new A Class sat nav.

This is the website.
https://what3words.com/

And our address.. well this is where the Morgan lives...
///constants.imparts.sensible

So, who is behind this amazing concept?
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#558811 - 09/02/19 02:41 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
Hamwich Offline

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Originally Posted By Peter J

So, who is behind this amazing concept?


The people who are developing drone delivery technology.
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#558812 - 09/02/19 02:44 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
Paul F Offline

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Originally Posted By Peter J

So, who is behind this amazing concept?

Looking at the Ts&Cs it is a UK firm.
Companies House lists active directors including one from an investment firm and one from Daimler AG. The names are all on the listings but no signs of who is the driving force although I suspect that one Director is an academic. Looks like the firm has been active for quite a while.
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#558815 - 09/02/19 02:59 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Hamwich]
Peter J Offline
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Originally Posted By Hamwich
Originally Posted By Peter J

So, who is behind this amazing concept?


The people who are developing drone delivery technology.


And the people developing autonomous transport?

I have installed the phone app...it links to google maps perfectly. No more entering complex addresses.
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#558823 - 09/02/19 03:33 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
Northernmorgan Offline

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Originally Posted By Peter J
This is amazing....
I discovered it because it is built into the new A Class sat nav.

This is the website.
https://what3words.com/

And our address.. well this is where the Morgan lives...
///constants.imparts.sensible

So, who is behind this amazing concept?


Solar panels at evenings.revise.reclaimed. 🤓
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#558825 - 09/02/19 03:36 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
PeterG Offline

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Started using it a few weeks ago, very good and apparently developed by two British ladies.

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#558826 - 09/02/19 03:43 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
Hamwich Offline

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All my extremely valuable stuff is at ////nochance.ofmeshowing.thewholeworldwhereitis
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#558829 - 09/02/19 04:09 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Hamwich]
nick w Offline

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Originally Posted By Hamwich
All my extremely valuable stuff is at ////nochance.ofmeshowing.thewholeworldwhereitis

Very good, that's mine too.
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#558835 - 09/02/19 04:22 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Hamwich]
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Originally Posted By Hamwich
All my extremely valuable stuff is at ////nochance.ofmeshowing.thewholeworldwhereitis

I am so sorry you are suffering from Thewholeworldwhereitis.
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#558849 - 09/02/19 05:00 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
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I don't see what purpose it serves. Maybe a bit easier to remember than geographic coordinates but an address or in the case of the UK a postcode would seem just as easy for navigation.

By the way it is different depending on language. In Italian your Mog is at ///stucco.conduciamo.includete

PS. I'm not sure you should tell thewholeworldwhereitis. If you want to modify it while you still have time let me know and I will change my post too.


Edited by Gambalunga (09/02/19 05:08 PM)
Edit Reason: PS
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#558870 - 09/02/19 06:17 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
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I drove passed a house today that had a huge Ducati flag out side !!! That's like saying if you want my Ducati it's in the garage, help yourself banghead
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#558892 - 09/02/19 07:41 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
pandy Offline

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Originally Posted By Peter J
This is amazing....
I discovered it because it is built into the new A Class sat nav.

This is the website.
https://what3words.com/

And our address.. well this is where the Morgan lives...
///constants.imparts.sensible

So, who is behind this amazing concept?


I think my Grandfather may have invented it back in the 1920s.

One of his best mates in the Navy was a chap called John Stewart, whose title et the time was Lord Doune (subsequently he became the 19th Earl of Moray).

His then address was

Lord Doune
Doune Lodge
Doune.

My grandpa would always address correspondance to him simply as

Lord Doune Lodge.

It always got there.
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#558942 - 10/02/19 08:32 AM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
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I dont get it. It says " The what3words algorithm takes complex GPS coordinates and converts them into unique 3 word addresses. It means anyone can talk about anywhere with 3 simple words." But what is simpler than 51 26.65N 3 10.55W . Likely it will also be shorter

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#558946 - 10/02/19 08:45 AM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: howard]
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My thoughts too Howard!
Just don't see the point. Perhaps it's years of meandering around the world...
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#558948 - 10/02/19 08:49 AM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
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Whilst I find it quite a clever idea! I’d find it easier to remember three words than a string of numbers! But then I’ve never been a numbers man....preferred words. Although whilst in the army cadets I did take great pride in being top at navigation! I loved maps (still do) and navigating with a compass.

I can see the idea being popular with the younger generation who don’t think of maps and navigation in the same way we do.

I wouldn’t be keen on posting my exact location on social media mind...it’s bad enough being tracked down by your post code but I’m happy to say that you can often find me at
depending.ever.marsh. 🤪


Edited by Northernmorgan (10/02/19 08:58 AM)
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#558960 - 10/02/19 09:50 AM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
Richard Wood Offline
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You can think of three random words and the chances are they (or something close) will exist as a location. I searched house.man.field. The demo search found ///house.many.field, a location in Queensland, Australia. Next try was cars.road.hedge revealing ///cars.goad.hedge a location near Greencastle, Indiana

Great fun but the novelty soon wears off. Are the latest generation that ignorant of geography confused2
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#559059 - 10/02/19 05:08 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Richard Wood]
Chris99 Offline

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This has been around for a while but not really been taken up in the UK as we have a good Postcode system with detailed geocoding. Your UK Postcode will typically get you within a few 10s or 100s of metres (depending on whether you are in an urban or rural area) and adding a house number gets you pretty much to the front door.

It makes some sense for countries with large area postcodes, such as Eire and the USA for example. However getting mass takeup without a government backed implementation is difficult - for example the slow takeup of Eirecodes in Eire.
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#559064 - 10/02/19 05:26 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Chris99]
Peter J Offline
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I think it is a bit of a clever solution looking for a problem.

But, playing with the what3words app on the phone I identified a grid square in the middle of the new forest. I then sent the words into google maps and it planned a walking rout across country to my destination.

I can see value in countries like India which has no meaningful navigation information, even in the cities road signs are rare. In the country you need to know where to go, or to ask.

In the new A35 I understand I can tell the sat nav, using "Mercedes Me" to take me to ///hushed.pizzeria.estate (the entrance to MMC reception) and it will do so!
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#559089 - 10/02/19 08:11 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: howard]
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Originally Posted By howard
I dont get it. It says " The what3words algorithm takes complex GPS coordinates and converts them into unique 3 word addresses. It means anyone can talk about anywhere with 3 simple words." But what is simpler than 51 26.65N 3 10.55W . Likely it will also be shorter


You'll need another decimal place to get down to the same 3m accuracy. The three words are faster and easier to read out and are less error prone, if you spell a word wrongly the system will offer plausible options.

///factories.shock.dozed

However, a big potential downside is that to find a location you have to do a database lookup.
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#559103 - 10/02/19 09:40 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
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It is clever but with my tiny brain it will be just as likely to find remembering which three words I need to use. It's easier, faster and more efficient to just open google maps and drop/send a map pin.
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#559107 - 10/02/19 10:37 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
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The reason the eircode is slow to be taken up is primarily due to the government wanting delivery companies to pay for using it!!! Needless to say they baulk at this and use other codes which are free!!


Edited by Robbie (10/02/19 10:37 PM)
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#559129 - 11/02/19 08:01 AM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: David_E]
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I tried entering ///factories.shock.dozed in Google Maps and it didn't recognise it at all.
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#559133 - 11/02/19 08:32 AM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
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Originally Posted By Peter J


In the new A35 I understand I can tell the sat nav, using "Mercedes Me" to take me to ///hushed.pizzeria.estate (the entrance to MMC reception) and it will do so!



Wow, I knew Moto Build had been making racing cars out of them. But I had know idea that they had taken it to this level.
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#559161 - 11/02/19 11:46 AM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Rovert]
Peter J Offline
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Originally Posted By Rovert
Originally Posted By Peter J


In the new A35 I understand I can tell the sat nav, using "Mercedes Me" to take me to ///hushed.pizzeria.estate (the entrance to MMC reception) and it will do so!



Wow, I knew Moto Build had been making racing cars out of them. But I had know idea that they had taken it to this level.



rofl rofl rofl
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#559212 - 11/02/19 05:39 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: David_E]
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Originally Posted By David_E
Originally Posted By howard
I dont get it. It says " The what3words algorithm takes complex GPS coordinates and converts them into unique 3 word addresses. It means anyone can talk about anywhere with 3 simple words." But what is simpler than 51 26.65N 3 10.55W . Likely it will also be shorter


You'll need another decimal place to get down to the same 3m accuracy. The three words are faster and easier to read out and are less error prone, if you spell a word wrongly the system will offer plausible options.

///factories.shock.dozed

However, a big potential downside is that to find a location you have to do a database lookup.


Will all the words be english ones? If so what about the chinese? Or the Greeks? Or arabs?. And then there is the choice of words - essentially random so there is no judging where a place is from the words. And how do you estimate distances in between places as you can do with lat and long. For that matter how do you estimate time differences as you can with lat and long? How is your GPS going to work - presumably it will have to have a database of the names for every 3m square, so that it can convert the lat and long it uses into the three words.

And what does the system do about unfortunate three word combinations - there might well be a place named "morgan wooden chassis" which would of course be outrageous.

Its a daft solution looking for a problem.

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#559249 - 11/02/19 08:17 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Robbie]
Chris99 Offline

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Originally Posted By Robbie
The reason the eircode is slow to be taken up is primarily due to the government wanting delivery companies to pay for using it!!! Needless to say they baulk at this and use other codes which are free!!


Delivery compaines already pay for geocoding and address matching data for other countries so I doubt cost is the issue. The cost of driving around hunting for a house or, even worse failing a delivery and having to redeliver far outweigh the small cost of the address data.
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#559258 - 11/02/19 08:46 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
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I tried it, in Germany they use German wordings.

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#559298 - 12/02/19 07:17 AM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Heinz]
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Originally Posted By Heinz
I tried it, in Germany they use German wordings.

See my earlier post. It depends on the language of your device and/or browser. Peter's original 3 words location is in Italian if I reset exactly the same spot.

Originally Posted By Gambalunga
.....

By the way it is different depending on language. In Italian your Mog is at ///stucco.conduciamo.includete
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#559301 - 12/02/19 07:43 AM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Gambalunga]
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Originally Posted By Gambalunga
Originally Posted By Heinz
I tried it, in Germany they use German wordings.

See my earlier post. It depends on the language of your device and/or browser. Peter's original 3 words location is in Italian if I reset exactly the same spot.

Originally Posted By Gambalunga
.....

By the way it is different depending on language. In Italian your Mog is at ///stucco.conduciamo.includete


Sorry if I haven't got fully into this thread as yet, but does this mean that for this system to work there are as many code variations for the same location as there are languages in the world? If so, doesn't a universal numeric grid reference still make sense for most purposes?
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#559305 - 12/02/19 08:08 AM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
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#559313 - 12/02/19 08:33 AM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Rob Thornton]
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Originally Posted By Rob Thornton
Originally Posted By Gambalunga
Originally Posted By Heinz
I tried it, in Germany they use German wordings.

See my earlier post. It depends on the language of your device and/or browser. Peter's original 3 words location is in Italian if I reset exactly the same spot.

Originally Posted By Gambalunga
.....

By the way it is different depending on language. In Italian your Mog is at ///stucco.conduciamo.includete


Sorry if I haven't got fully into this thread as yet, but does this mean that for this system to work there are as many code variations for the same location as there are languages in the world? If so, doesn't a universal numeric grid reference still make sense for most purposes?

It still gives the correct location if you search for it in the map in say English whatever your home language may be, and I assume vice versa.
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#559314 - 12/02/19 08:45 AM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
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Originally Posted By Peter J

In the new A35 I understand I can tell the sat nav, using "Mercedes Me" to take me to ///hushed.pizzeria.estate (the entrance to MMC reception) and it will do so!

And would "MMC, Spring Lane" not also take you there Peter? smile
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#559340 - 12/02/19 11:32 AM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
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I searched for "best guitarist ever" and it's somewhere in Russia.....no use to me at all........
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#572442 - Yesterday at 03:13 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
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Now I have the car I've been playing with the new MBUX system, it replaces the 15 year old "Command" system. It is a bit like migrating from a PC to a Mac, and like all modern systems it can be voice activated.

I asked it to take me to "intend.straddlwd.awkward" and it took me to right outside the garage door. I'm impressed.

Now, if only I could program Waze, which I use in Tarka, with What 3 Words it would be perfect!
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#572495 - Yesterday at 08:20 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
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I read a couple of weeks ago that some of the police forces are now using it.
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#572498 - Yesterday at 09:12 PM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: Peter J]
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Originally Posted By Peter J


In the new A35 I understand I can tell the sat nav, using "Mercedes Me" to take me to ///hushed.pizzeria.estate (the entrance to MMC reception) and it will do so!



Did what3words know about the buyout before anyone else?!
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#572556 - Today at 10:33 AM Re: what3words: the new way to find places [Re: TheCustomer]
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Originally Posted By TheCustomer
Originally Posted By Peter J


In the new A35 I understand I can tell the sat nav, using "Mercedes Me" to take me to ///hushed.pizzeria.estate (the entrance to MMC reception) and it will do so!



Did what3words know about the buyout before anyone else?!


It does seem to be a bit of a coincidence!
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