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RIP John Haynes #559247
11/02/19 08:13 PM
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Just spotted this; John Haynes obituary.
I can't honestly say that I really knew anything about him but have used many of his manuals and without them I suspect I would have lost even more skin off my knuckles over the years.

Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: RedThree] #559253
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As a regular visitor to Sparkford, this is sad news.


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Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: RedThree] #559276
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RIP John - I thank you for giving me the confidence to strip out and repair cars over the years with your manuals, 7 of which are still on my shelf and likely to remain so.
The museum and bookshop are a delight to visit you created something very special there.


Regards Richard

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Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: RedThree] #559288
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Few of us of a certain age will not have relied on one of his manuals at some time. A sad passing and the end of an era.

Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: RedThree] #559297
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A very special man indeed.


Martin (Deano)
Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: +8Rich] #559304
12/02/19 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted By +8Rich
RIP John -
The museum and bookshop are a delight to visit you created something very special there.

As indeed was the cafe eat smile
I have over 15 Haynes manuals (and a few history books too) still on the shelves here. Most of the cars are long gone. Very useful on some of the now "classics" owned by self and family members over the years
It's a shame though that the later generations of manuals plainly did not follow the original ethos of a total strip down and rebuild of a vehicle (despite claims to the contrary). I'm not referring to the electronics, but such simple things as all the fasteners holding a dash in place, or the access to simple things such as sidelamps on some models.


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Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: RedThree] #559308
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He did a great service......certainly me who always bought one of his manuals for nearly all the cars I bought. Not that I serviced or took apart everything but I was always intrigued to know how everything is put together. Gave up when the cars became more electronic and complex.

I loved our TM trip down to the museum. G.......you will probably think of him each time you bite into a sausage roll 🤓🤣


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Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: RedThree] #559309
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A great loss. I have kept every manual I have bought.
The younger I was the greater the grease & oil marks as the older the cars & bikes were.


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Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: Northernmorgan] #559310
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Originally Posted By Northernmorgan

I loved our TM trip down to the museum. G.......you will probably think of him each time you bite into a sausage roll 🤓🤣

rofl
Yes, every time I see a sausage roll, never mind bite into one! grin2


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Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: John V6] #559315
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Originally Posted By John V6
A great loss. I have kept every manual I have bought.
The younger I was the greater the grease & oil marks as the older the cars & bikes were.


My car change mantra used to be
1. swop car for one with less rust
2. call in at local car spares & buy appropriate Haynes manual


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When swmbo Jnr got her 1st car it was the first thing I purchased her . Or should I say me. All she had to do is say "Dad" and I knew she was after something . All the dads reading this will know what I mean . notworthy

Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: CooperMan] #559320
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Originally Posted By CooperMan
My car change mantra used to be
1. swop car for one with less rust
2. call in at local car spares & buy appropriate Haynes manual


Me too.

I should have kept a note of all the pages with sentences that read something along the lines of:
“Withdraw the fulcrum pin”

Made it seem so easy. 2 days of hammering and cursing later ....


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Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: Paul F] #559325
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Oddly there was never a few pages on sore thumbs hit by hammers etc along with bits of skin missing and how to get your hands and arms into impossible places and back out .

Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: RedThree] #559350
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I just love the "grading" of tasks in the Haynes manuals.

1 Spanner : Easy: Suitable for a novice with little experience (read pretty proficient with tools)
2 Spanners: Fairly Easy: Suitable for a beginner with some experience (read very proficient with a large number of hands tools and quite a bit of experience)
3 Spanners: Fairly Difficult: Suitable for a competent DIY mechanic (read a competent mechanic with lots of experience and a good workshop)
4 Spanners: Difficult; Suitable for an experienced DIY mechanic (read a full time professional mechanic with their own garage)
5 Spanners: Very Difficult: Suitable for expert DIY or professional (read one who works in a dealership with access to all manner of tools and lots of backup and help on hand)


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Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: RedThree] #559362
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Maybe either our current, or one of our past TM guides at the factory can confirm?

However, on visiting the factory a few years ago, I seem to remember one of the guys in the Chassis Shop sat back reading a spoof ‘How to Build a Morgan’ Haynes Manual as our tour walked by.


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Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: Budster] #559369
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Indeed. A Haynes manual for a +8 IIRC smile
I remember it being lifted from a shelf and opened behind J's back grin2


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Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: CooperMan] #559375
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Originally Posted By CooperMan
Originally Posted By John V6
A great loss. I have kept every manual I have bought.
The younger I was the greater the grease & oil marks as the older the cars & bikes were.


My car change mantra used to be
1. swop car for one with less rust
2. call in at local car spares & buy appropriate Haynes manual


Familiar tales! My Triumph Bonneville manual is particularly oily smile


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Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: RedThree] #559377
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John Haynes was a foundation of an era when DIY car servicing was easy and the norm.
I still have the Haynes book for our Alfa Sud.

Today cars are so complex that I suspect many let a garage do the work.
The attraction of the Earlier Mogs is that they are so easy to service, even without a Haynes Manual!


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Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: Graham, G4FUJ] #559385
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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Indeed. A Haynes manual for a +8 IIRC smile
I remember it being lifted from a shelf and opened behind J's back grin2


It was....a number of times and usually deliberately held upside down. It was in the chassis shop building the Aeros and raised quite a few laughs!

Last edited by Northernmorgan; 12/02/19 03:56 PM.

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Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: Northernmorgan] #559404
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Originally Posted By Northernmorgan
Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Indeed. A Haynes manual for a +8 IIRC smile
I remember it being lifted from a shelf and opened behind J's back grin2


It was....a number of times and usually deliberately held upside down. It was in the chassis shop building the Aeros and raised quite a few laughs!


Yep I remember it well, always up for a laugh.


Martin (Deano)
Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: RedThree] #559549
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RIP to an innovator.
I have a few manuals left over from old cars plus one on Engine Management (good book to learn from).
As above...
Buy a car then Haynes manual. More so in the days when I was buying older cars and very much hands-on. It was a must have in those days!
Yesterday we were in Brixham and the Haynes Museum was on our list to visit on the way home. 5 cars left from 9 on the trip.
However time constraints meant we dropped it as it would have meant too short a stay to do it justice.
Just remembered...I bought manuals for the 4/4 and the Plus8 just to get engine details.
Ford Orion for the 1.6cvhefi and Discovery for the V8.

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Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: RedThree] #559661
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The passing of an era indeed.

I was at school at Hazlegrove, just up the road in Sparkford from the Haynes HQ, before the smart buildings, cafe and museum were built. John Haynes junior was a near-contemporary at the school. He used to arrive in assorted, often eclectic, transportation. I was a boarder, IIRC Haynes was a day-pupil or maybe a weekly boarder, so had rather more trips up the school drive than the rest of us...


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Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: RedThree] #559796
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A nice but brief tribute to the man from ITV.

https://www.facebook.com/ITVWestcountry/videos/582151125582282/


Regards Richard

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Re: RIP John Haynes [Re: +8Rich] #559808
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Nice obituary in the Torygraph today.


Giles. Mogless in Paris.
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