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Re: These models don't come to market too often. [Re: +8Rich] #559291
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We still have the 450SL which shall be sold this spring. When I’m perfectly honest, the rumble, and she has a nice exhaust which amplifies the rumble but in a civilized manner, can become too much from time to time. It's great to be starting up, but on a longer tour I don't like knocking anymore.
The 4/4 has never got on my nerves. The six cylinder in-line engine of the 1968 blue Mercedes 230 is a work of poetry.

I have never driven a 4/4 1.8, but I can imagine that it fits perfectly to the car. And as you can see everywhere, it is enormously upgradable. Since it is a modular system, can you combine such a 1.8 4/4 with a Mazda gearbox, without too much effort?

Re: These models don't come to market too often. [Re: +8Rich] #559294
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Originally Posted By +8Rich
I certainly would never rule it out Heinz - that BRG 70th pressed all the right buttons but I hesitated too long banghead

Whoever said that was not really thinking about what they were saying I think, I remember it coming up but it was a long time ago and I believe Budster thoroughly enjoys showing them a clean pair of heels on the open road so he had the last laugh.


Yes, I understand. I only quoted it because Budster repeated a joke from it more often, and that's why the "poverty model" has now become a running gag. We all know how cool a 4/4 is.

Re: These models don't come to market too often. [Re: +8Rich] #559295
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Looks like a lovely example.

Am I imagining this... Looking at the top of the windscreen, it is perfectly parallel to the top of the image (photo border) edge... but then the left hand front wing looks lower than the right hand side, the car looks 'twisted' to the left... it's not parallel to the bottom of the image (photo border) edge?

The grill does not seem vertical either?

(Yes, the angled Krazy Horse number plate makes this seem worse)





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Re: These models don't come to market too often. [Re: pete757] #559296
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Originally Posted By pete757
Looks like a lovely example.

Am I imagining this... Looking at the top of the windscreen, it is perfectly parallel to the top of the image (photo border) edge... but then the left hand front wing looks lower than the right hand side, the car looks 'twisted' to the left... it's not parallel to the bottom of the image (photo border) edge?

The grill does not seem vertical either?

(Yes, the angled Krazy Horse number plate makes this seem worse)





Believe me, she is one of the better units. If you look too long at a Morgan you will discover always some confusing angles. It is the „proof“ they are handmade and individual.
Here you can see my car before and after a wildlife accident. I ever was happy with her as is (was). But my garage needed to install a new wing at the left side (viewing from the front). Because they had the time the result is somehow better than the original production. Look at the different height of the indicator on the original (the orange ones). But they do it in Malvern with feeling, so it's true as a whole.
http://www.talkmorgan.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/505312/5
But so what...

Re: These models don't come to market too often. [Re: +8Rich] #559319
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Interesting!

I also have a Landrover Defender... all the rivets and spot welds are in slightly different positions!

Love hand-built cars wink


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Re: These models don't come to market too often. [Re: pete757] #559322
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Originally Posted By pete757
Looks like a lovely example.

Am I imagining this... Looking at the top of the windscreen, it is perfectly parallel to the top of the image (photo border) edge... but then the left hand front wing looks lower than the right hand side, the car looks 'twisted' to the left... it's not parallel to the bottom of the image (photo border) edge?

The grill does not seem vertical either?

(Yes, the angled Krazy Horse number plate makes this seem worse)





You are absolutely right, the stick on number plate was what drew my eye to the out of true. The other points you noted I had missed such is the mystique of the brand.


Regards Richard

1999 Indigo Blue +8
2009 4/4 Sport Green
1994 Connaught Green +8





Re: These models don't come to market too often. [Re: +8Rich] #559345
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Hi Richard,

Here's a couple of piccies of my car which has paint protection film. Hope it temps you though I rather like the +8 myself.

Note the third piccie of the grill and headlamps and the distance from cowl to headlamp unit. Compare this to the Williams and Allon White cars. The distance is far greater on their cars.

I believe that wire wheel cars had their wings trimmed back though I fail to understand why given my track dimension is exactly as specified.

For reference the distance between headlamp centres is 30".

If any other owners have a view I would be interested
















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Geof

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Re: These models don't come to market too often. [Re: SALMO] #559359
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Geof

Thanks for posting your machine she is a beauty and I can see exactly what you mean about the front wings. Just a thought although the steel wheels are 6" maybe it is the offset that makes it necessary to widen the wings on those models, I am assuming yours has 5.5"wires here. Certainly a first for me seeing a 70th on wires.

She looks brand new clap thumbs


Regards Richard

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2009 4/4 Sport Green
1994 Connaught Green +8





Re: These models don't come to market too often. [Re: SALMO] #559378
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Originally Posted By SALMO

For reference the distance between headlamp centres is 30".


And the distance between the headlamp centres on the Aero +8 is 40"!!


Peter,
Tarka the 'Otter Mog
2014 Plus 8


Re: These models don't come to market too often. [Re: +8Rich] #559414
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Geof, you have a very nice Mog!

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