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Re: Plus Six (a small Plus 8)
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04/04/19 05:09 AM
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In regards to software upgrades, most new ones have the ability to adopt newer software but only from like to like. The S5 has a different and more current transmission from past series. So if BMW release an update for that same transmission, there isn't any reason why an update can't be had.
I am not sure that MOG uses the BMW software for the gearbox. Do you have any further details on the differences between the S5 transmission and the previous Aeros?
2010 Violet Aero Supersports | 2012 Green Vantage S Roadster
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Re: Plus Six (a small Plus 8)
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04/04/19 06:51 AM
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I prefer a manual sports car. I have just sold my PDK 911 for a manual version because although the PDK is a fabulous gearbox, for me it's too good and minimises driver involvement. Yes it's a way faster gear change and for track days a benefit. For road use it's a manual for me.
Will this stop me buying a Plus 6? Time will tell.
Martin (Deano)
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Re: Plus Six (a small Plus 8)
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04/04/19 07:17 AM
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The PDK in my Porsche did the most wonderful downward changes....it was very addictive 🤪. The ZF in my BMW whilst pretty effective is just a slush box compared to that.
John 1936 Austin Seven Ulster Replica
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Re: Plus Six (a small Plus 8)
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04/04/19 07:31 AM
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From Wikipedia: All Jaguar XE models are equipped with a ZF 8HP45 eight-speed automatic transmission, a lighter variant of the gearbox currently fitted to other Jaguar models and the competing BMW 3 Series. Not particularly fast on the changes but probably better, or not much different, than what I could do manually.
Peter
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Re: Plus Six (a small Plus 8)
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04/04/19 08:00 AM
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Alternative gearboxes that fit are available from: Quaife, Drenth, Hewland or Elite. Ratio’s to suit your style (not a saloon or 4x4), straight or Helical cut gears and H pattern or Mechanical Sequential shift.
Best paired with a dual plate small diameter clutch and a lightweight flywheel.
Take your pick - sit anywhere from slush along to machine gun fast.
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Re: Plus Six (a small Plus 8)
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04/04/19 01:46 PM
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I had this doubt since there is a company who can remap "our" gearbox with the Alpina SW via OBDII but they told me that they could not do it with the Aero8.
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Re: Plus Six (a small Plus 8)
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05/04/19 03:19 PM
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Gearboxes can change the whole driving experience of a car IMO.
I have a road legal car with a Hewland H patern dogbox. The gear changes are lightning fast and when on track they are brilliant if you get them right. They allow flat changes with no clutch and, other than the noise, are virtually seamless. The issue is that driving the car in Tescos car park the gear changes need to be whip lash fast too. There is no such thing as a lazy change. The down changes are a challenge as well. The gearbox dominates the driving of the car and can be very rewarding if one gets it right.
The Fun Cup Race car has a Sandev sequential dogbox with an engine cut. Going up it is easy, if quite physical, and allows flat changes. It is very quick but not as quick as the Hewland box. It is a good solution if driving quickly but again does not suit laziness.
For me the ZF can do both fast manual control and automatic for the Tesco’s car park.
I few years ago I would have always chosen manual with synchromesh but auto boxes are so good now ... For me it depends what you are going to use the car for and all of them can be ingaging and fun to drive IMO.
Morgan +8 Morgan Club Sport
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