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#567484 - 19/03/19 08:22 PM Re: If I could only have one.... Guitar [Re: twotribes]
Heinz Offline

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#567494 - 19/03/19 09:21 PM Re: If I could only have one.... Guitar [Re: Bonesie]
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Originally Posted By Bonesie

Have you thought about a semi acoustic ?


Or even a hybrid? This is my Godin A6 Ultra, a very versatile little guitar and nicely in your price range at around £900. Chambered body, piezo pickup under the bridges and a neck humbucker. The 2 signas can eb routed independently or blended.

Fender do a similar job called the Acoustisonic but it's a bit over complex with embedded modelling software and it costs £1700 or thereabouts.

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#567495 - 19/03/19 09:22 PM Re: If I could only have one.... Guitar [Re: twotribes]
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If you aspire to both Rockabilly and Blues I also think a semi acoustic is the way to go. In the Epiphone / Gibson ranges, yes you are looking for a 1960's (slim) neck and not the 1950's and yes the shorter scale length compared to Fender will help. There are a lot of manufacturers making good guitars in this style so try as many as you can before you buy. A good dealer should be happy to let you try their guitars and not feel pressured to make a decision on the day, but please buy from a shop and not over the internet. A professional set up of the guitar is also worthwhile.
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#567505 - 19/03/19 10:38 PM Re: If I could only have one.... Guitar [Re: twotribes]
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I agree with that, Tom. Above all, buy the guitar in the shop, not on the internet. But there are also pitfalls. We have a very big shop, and if you have chosen a guitar of the middle price range, then they give you such a guitar from the stock and not the one you have played.
Because I couldn't buy the demonstration model for my son back then, I insisted on being able to choose from three new guitars. The buyer in the shop was annoyed at first and didn't want to allow it, but I insisted and we could choose one of them.

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#567507 - 19/03/19 11:15 PM Re: If I could only have one.... Guitar [Re: twotribes]
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Thank you people for your responses and such a load of good suggestions.

Gretsch White Falcon - I've loved these since Billy Duffy (ToH, the Cult) had one! But way better than I need. I like the fact that the newer (cheaper) Gretsch models have the same look and the Bigsby tremolo.

Lots of love on here for Gibsons, but I confess to being put off by my first 'proper' guitar which was a Les Paul far-East copy, solid mahogany and weighed a ton. I guess the better ones and real ones are chambered to save weight and balance them. But I want something different now. The ES335 is a great shout and I will definitely try one.

I didn't know you could get an 'electric' style slim neck and curved/narrow fretboard on an acoustic/hybrid body. That also appeals.

Andertons in Guildford is pretty much the halfway point in my Kent-Dorset commute, so I will be buying off real people with an opportunity to try a few different options - but I wanted to first figure out what I wanted.

Of course, if I was buying on looks alone I would get a Telecaster - I just always liked the simplicity and workmanlike nature, and the fact the body is small (notwithstanding the stretch along the neck, at least the neck feels skinny). But as with cars, buying on looks alone probably isn't a smart idea.

Decisions, decisions. I can see why most guitarists own so many guitars...
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#567508 - 19/03/19 11:17 PM Re: If I could only have one.... Guitar [Re: twotribes]
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Agree with those who recommend the USA-made stratocaster. Just under £1000 in most UK shops (recent) secondhand. Fender Telecaster similar price for a more basic product. Also I like the Gibson 335 sunburst or in cherry red, a classic (but I suspect more than £1000). For sound, much will depend on the amp. Stick with valves and for effects use old pedals. Good luck.. do post pix of purchase!
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#567511 - 20/03/19 12:48 AM Re: If I could only have one.... Guitar [Re: twotribes]
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My first serious guitar in 1974 was a Lespaul Custom in black. I wanted a small motorcycle and my parents were afraid. At that time I was playing ok guitar in a band when I was 15 years old.

My father suggested to buy my dream guitar and to do without the motorbike. I decided to buy the guitar. Because it was my first real guitar and because it was a gift from my father I will never give it away. Also because I played it for at least 10 years as my only electric guitar.

But if I'm honest today, this black Lespaul Custom was from the worst time of Gibson quality. Had I bought a guitar with visible wood, it might have been less dramatic. But I wanted a black Lespaul. Because it was varnished and therefore you can't see any wood grain, Gibson's body was composed of seven pieces. Already after a few years you could see the seams because the wood was moving. This guitar is also incredibly heavy and not balanced. It hangs badly down on the body side. This has nothing to do with my positive feeling about this guitar, which creates many beautiful memories.
There is a rumour that a Gibson wood store was burned down at that time and that they had to buy spare wood quickly. The wood was paid for by weight, so it wasn't dry. That's why the wood of the guitar kept changing and you could see that it was cut together from small discs.

I had bought some other guitars when I had earned money myself but never a Lespaul again because my Lespaul somehow remained cold and sober for many years despite all the accompaniment. The ebony fingerboard of the Custom may have contributed to this.

In the last 35 years I have bought a very good 1967 Epiphone Casino for very little money, a used ES 446 which is a very special instrument, a new L5 Wes Montgomery, the two mentioned super good ES 335, an ES 175 1959 reissue with real wood of the sides, a Guild Artist Award with still De Armond pickup which is my first guitar of self earned money, a Telecaster just to mention the electric guitars.

And now back to the Lespaul model. I always thought all Lespauls were all lifeless like mine.
Then I happened to play a Michael Bloomfield reissue Lespaul during a USA vacation at the GuitarCenter in SF in 2010. Man I was absolutely electrified from the first note. I didn't think something like that was possible. Unfortunately a purchase was absolutely unreasonable, I would have had to pay customs and VAT in Germany. At that time the whole small series was already sold. I found then still in the Internet the absolutely last Michael Bloomfield VOS in London. VOS in Gibson language means vintage original specification in difference to „aged“. Aged is nonsense to me I explain at the end of this short post. Aged is like jeans with holes or a new Morgan with dents and scratches which are not part of your own ownership history. Aged Guitars by Gibson are way more expensive. So back to the story I called from SF, had the guitar weighed and went there three weeks later to test it. It was unique. I have to say that this guitar is a copy from 1959. That means thicker fat tone but a broomstick neck.

One year later I bought a Lespaul Eric Clapton "Beano" in the same store. This was my first blind purchase because the store had ordered my guitar in Nashville. It was one of the last VOS that was still available. For that I appreciate the store in London until today. In this country you are not treated so well and you have to take what is there. They never order a guitar from Gibson here for me personally.

The Beano is a copy of the guitar that EC was stolen but my goodness, they did so well in the Gibson custom shop. The Beano is original from 1960. That means a thin neck. It is a relative lightweight and sounds like heaven. I never would have thought that the Beano Lespaul could be one of my two most emotional guitars next to one of the ES 335.

I'd like to briefly discuss the weight of a Lespaul. There are or there were Lespauls with drilled out cavities. They wanted to save weight. Such models are absolutely unacceptable in sound. The Beano and the Bloomfield are made of real solid wood of very high quality. They are relatively light only because the wood is so good.

A final sentence on the subject of artificial ageing. Ok I admit that my preference to buy some guitars from a small series of imitated famous guitars sounds stupid to many readers. But these guitars are indescribably good in sound, weight and balance. Among them are the 1960 ES 335 anniversary models from 2010. I had an ES 335 from 2000 in between. It felt twice as heavy unbalanced and had a dead acrylic varnish. The 1960 anniversary have a Nitro lacquer are matt lacquered in VOS specification. Very cool.

But what I reject are so called aged guitars. That is absolute moneymaking. The guitars get older by themselves. What was it like before? Did Bloomfield have an aged Lespaul in "The Band" with Bob Dylan? 1965? Or EC with the Bluesbreakers 1966? Absolutely ridiculous. They bought new or young instruments and made immortal records.



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#567517 - 20/03/19 06:52 AM Re: If I could only have one.... Guitar [Re: Heinz]
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Originally Posted By Heinz
Mr. Osbourne, Mr. Bonesie. Cool!


Yarp, 10 smartie points to you cheers
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#567523 - 20/03/19 07:52 AM Re: If I could only have one.... Guitar [Re: Heinz]
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Originally Posted By Heinz

But what I reject are so called aged guitars.


You won't like my Luxxtone then Heinz. Luthiery by Jerry Bizon, lightly aged, custom paint job by Joe Morris.

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#567524 - 20/03/19 07:57 AM Re: If I could only have one.... Guitar [Re: twotribes]
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Loc: Northern England
Mmmmm that’s rather nice Tim 🤪
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