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Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #574510
30/04/19 11:13 PM
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Devonshire
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Yes it's the rugged look that appeals to me and most of the owners that I know locally. That and the fact you can hose the inside out grin2.
This new rendition looks like yet another that will appeal to the hipster city boys.
We'll see when the wraps come off.


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Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #574517
01/05/19 05:50 AM
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A Defender in name only............This will be another Chelsea tractor.

Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #574519
01/05/19 06:31 AM
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It will be too expensive for the people who need such a vehicle for its proper use and what’s more it won’t be built in this country. So an icon has gone and will not be replaced...well, in my view.
At least it won’t be a long lived vehicle.....in 30 years time it’ll be in the crusher unless it can be electrified.🙄


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Re: Defender [Re: MDS61] #574522
01/05/19 06:39 AM
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Hertfordshire
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Originally Posted By MDS61
Originally Posted By howard
I agree. The JLR product line is a bit of a mess.


Vehicle quality is also woeful confused2


Agree with both of you, too many variations of a similar theme.
As for reliability, I had to reject my Discovery Sport using the consumer Rights act due to a major manufacturing fault with the construction of the B pillar. The cure was removing the interior trim, drilling, bending and welding the pillar, not good on a new vehicle.
Shame as a reason for buying was supporting British jobs.

Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #574525
01/05/19 07:28 AM
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Why do people buy such cars when they never go off the road ? Daft purchase .


Geneva 2016 plus 8' The Green Godess' 4 side exits .


Re: Defender [Re: Fuel.inj] #574528
01/05/19 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted By Fuel.inj
A Defender in name only............This will be another Chelsea tractor.


I wonder what vehicle the British Military will now purchase for general work?

Certainly, the local farmers down here, gave up on Defenders a long time ago. The majority now use crew-cab pick-ups from Nissan, Toyota or Mitsubishi.


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Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #574535
01/05/19 08:15 AM
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I wonder what vehicle the British Military will now purchase for general work?


The MoD has a "white fleet" of leased cars vans and trucks for general purpose (non combat) movement of people and goods. A Land Rover Defender does not really fit as an efficient mover of goods or people as a van / cheaper saloon car will be always be more efficient.

For combat based activities the Oshkosh JLTV is most likely to become the standard product which replaces the role that the Defender would have historically been used for. This is a completely different size of platform to the Defender to provide the necessary blast and ballistic mitigation which is now required.

A Defender type platform would appear to have no role in the future of UK military operations which has probably influenced the direction that Land Rover has taken with the Defender.

Re: Defender [Re: Fuel.inj] #574536
01/05/19 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Fuel.inj
A Defender in name only............This will be another Chelsea tractor.

Yes I will be disappointed if this is the released product. Seems to miss the point of uncomplicated rugged vehicle, a Discovery/Range Rove clone. Perhaps Jim Ratcliffs Ineos will produce the real succesor.

Re: Defender [Re: TimG] #574538
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Originally Posted By TimG
Originally Posted By Fuel.inj
A Defender in name only............This will be another Chelsea tractor.

Yes I will be disappointed if this is the released product. Seems to miss the point of uncomplicated rugged vehicle, a Discovery/Range Rove clone. Perhaps Jim Ratcliffs Ineos will produce the real succesor.


I am somewhat embarrassed to say that my TDCI (Puma) has central locking, electric windows, air con, carpets and sound proofing (though I added that).


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Re: Defender [Re: madmax] #574539
01/05/19 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted By madmax
Why do people buy such cars when they never go off the road ? Daft purchase .


This isn't a personal go at you, but to make the analogy relevant, is it any more daft than having a 4.8l engine in a country where you can't legally drive in excess of 70mph on the public road? hide

The right to own a car whose capability exceeds its intended or probable use is called freedom (or vanity, depending on your viewpoint). Long may it continue. thumbs

Last edited by twotribes; 01/05/19 08:46 AM.

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