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Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #574634
01/05/19 07:19 PM
01/05/19 07:19 PM
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Hampshire
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I can see the benefits of using shared components, no issue with that. I just hope it is a hose down, rubber and neoprene, rugged, workhorse inside so it does stick to the stereotype.


Just time to burn a little more petrol before dinner.
Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #574644
01/05/19 07:49 PM
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I don't really understand the anti 4x4 feelings on here.

I have owned two Defenders and 3 Range Rovers and the Defenders were brilliant for knocking about country lanes in Pembrokeshire where the height meant I could see over hedges and was used to tow a boat and launch off beaches. I never needed to use low ratio, but the ground clearance and 4 wheel drive were useful as was the fact that you could get into the car wet and dirty and not worry.

As I have said before on here my Range Rovers have been the most reliable cars I have ever owned and are brilliant for doing 600-800 miles in a day in complete comfort, with lots of gear / dog onboard. We spend a lot of time in Austria and I have never got stuck in the snow where the ground clearance and 4x4 is vital - but have not yet needed low ratio.

Isn't this just about horses for courses - they are a tool for a job and do it well - as does a Morgan to provide fun. I just wouldn't try and drive 800 miles in a day in the snow with kids, dog and suitcases in a Morgan, much as I wouldn't try and drive for fun in a Defender or Range Rover.

Re: Defender [Re: madmax] #574647
01/05/19 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted By madmax
Why do people buy such cars when they never go off the road ? Daft purchase .


About as daft as buying a high powered sports car that will never see a race track 🙄


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Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #574648
01/05/19 07:56 PM
01/05/19 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Alistair
I can see the benefits of using shared components, no issue with that. I just hope it is a hose down, rubber and neoprene, rugged, workhorse inside so it does stick to the stereotype.


That's a good wishlist.

Mine would be:

<1860mm in overall width
Wheels allow 60+ tyre profile
Front wing edges visible to driver

If it's based very closely on a Disco chassis then it's not looking too hopeful on a couple of those.

Shame, as rumoured auto option and petrol engines would be welcome. (My '12 G Wag changed my mind on autos for off-roading. They can be set up to be far more usable than a manual). Unitary body wouldn't bother me, but air-springs would be a no-no.


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Re: Defender [Re: Graham, G4FUJ] #574649
01/05/19 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Originally Posted By TimG
Originally Posted By Fuel.inj
A Defender in name only............This will be another Chelsea tractor.

Yes I will be disappointed if this is the released product. Seems to miss the point of uncomplicated rugged vehicle, a Discovery/Range Rove clone.

Exactly...
Originally Posted By madmax
Why do people buy such cars when they never go off the road ? Daft purchase.

Not all are limited to supermarket car parks as "off-road" territory Steve. Stuart also has a point smile



Graham , I fully understand having a 4wd for those in country areas but central London and motorway use only seems at odds with 2 tonne 4wd and size .


Geneva 2016 plus 8' The Green Godess' 4 side exits .


Re: Defender [Re: madmax] #574656
01/05/19 08:18 PM
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Yes Steve, but you didn't say that originally! smile
Mine, when I drive it, could be out for various reasons, not often driven long motorway distances though Sue and I have done long trips in them - plenty of luggage/dog space.
Mainly it gets used to provide safety radio cover for various events where I will very likely not be on tarmac (apart from getting to a venue). I have also retrieved many inadequately equipped motorists from ditches &c. particularly during the cooler parts of the year (I'm sure Tim has done the same). Sometimes it is just so I can continue a journey along a road blocked by some numpty who has no idea how to drive when conditions become less than ideal.
As for central London, I'll leave that to Reg! grin2


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Re: Defender [Re: Graham, G4FUJ] #574663
01/05/19 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Yes Steve, but you didn't say that originally! smile
Mine, when I drive it, could be out for various reasons, not often driven long motorway distances though Sue and I have done long trips in them - plenty of luggage/dog space.
Mainly it gets used to provide safety radio cover for various events where I will very likely not be on tarmac (apart from getting to a venue). I have also retrieved many inadequately equipped motorists from ditches &c. particularly during the cooler parts of the year (I'm sure Tim has done the same). Sometimes it is just so I can continue a journey along a road blocked by some numpty who has no idea how to drive when conditions become less than ideal.
As for central London, I'll leave that to Reg! grin2



'Off road ' !


Geneva 2016 plus 8' The Green Godess' 4 side exits .


Re: Defender [Re: madmax] #574664
01/05/19 08:33 PM
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Yes, all kinds of non metalled areas...


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Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #574770
02/05/19 04:27 PM
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Just hoping it will tow 3.5T and cost a lot less than the current Discovery.


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Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #574772
02/05/19 04:34 PM
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I would not buy a Range Rover or Discovery they are probably the most stolen vehicle at the moment, I have recovered 5 yes 5 in the last two days. If you must have one be sure and fit a proper Tracker, that's the ones I get back. Usually next day or the day after drive


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