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Morgan Plus 6, BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra #578430
28/05/19 07:54 AM
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Peter J Offline OP
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I wonder if any of the magazines will do a road test comparing the new Plus Six, the new Toyota Supra and the new BMW Z4: same engine, transmission.

Will MMC be able to match the German/Japanese products in the eyes of the market?

Possible the first time in living history that MMC has a car that, on paper, matches two of the best.


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Re: Morgan Plus 6, BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra [Re: Peter J] #578440
28/05/19 08:48 AM
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That'd be an interesting comparison Peter , let's hope one of the magazines think so too .

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Re: Morgan Plus 6, BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra [Re: Peter J] #578443
28/05/19 09:07 AM
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Are you looking at picking up said Press Demonstrator at a bargain price Peter?


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Re: Morgan Plus 6, BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra [Re: milligoon] #578448
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Originally Posted By milligoon
Are you looking at picking up said Press Demonstrator at a bargain price Peter?


No, no plan to change. I like the fact that the Plus Eight has no turbos.


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Re: Morgan Plus 6, BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra [Re: Peter J] #578449
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Originally Posted By Peter J
I wonder if any of the magazines will do a road test comparing the new Plus Six, the new Toyota Supra and the new BMW Z4: same engine, transmission.

Will MMC be able to match the German/Japanese products in the eyes of the market?

Possible the first time in living history that MMC has a car that, on paper, matches two of the best.


Neither the Toyota nor the BMW got test reports that would qualify them as "two of the best" , and thats when they are new models which invariably get puffed up. So lets hope the Morgan is better.

That said they are in totally different markets. The wife / girlfriend / pa / whatever that fancies a Z4 likely wont even know that the Morgan exists let alone fancy something that looks "old fashioned". Morgans are for enthusiastic petrolheads not just convertible buyers.

And then there is the build quality and reliability hide

In short I dont see the two as competing at all. I mean,when did you see a Z4 driver, soft top down in mid winter and wearing a sheepskin flying jacket and maybe a deerstalker hat.

Re: Morgan Plus 6, BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra [Re: howard] #578451
28/05/19 10:43 AM
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I'd say the markets overlap. A Supra petrolhead might consider a Plus 6.

As you say, the magazine journalists are not blown over by wither the Z4 or the Supra.

As you say, can MMC step up to the plate with at least US Quality standards?
The Plus 6 is light, which will help its corner. I've not calculated bhp/kilo for the three.


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Re: Morgan Plus 6, BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra [Re: Peter J] #578458
28/05/19 11:12 AM
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Still not seen a review of the plus 6 !


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Re: Morgan Plus 6, BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra [Re: Peter J] #578465
28/05/19 11:40 AM
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Yep, it’s odd they haven’t got a journalist in one of the two show cars, unless they weren’t setup suspension wise or finished yet.

Re: Morgan Plus 6, BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra [Re: Peter J] #578492
28/05/19 01:13 PM
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I'm afraid I can't help but worry about the lack of ABS/Switchable traction control though..


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Re: Morgan Plus 6, BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra [Re: SBM] #578493
28/05/19 01:13 PM
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They have ABS... smile


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