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Smart Motorway Lane Closures (Red Cross) #581412
14/06/19 03:13 PM
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From June 10th it will cost £100 plus three penalty points, and about time!!!

A few weeks ago we were stuck on the M1 for four hours, and watched as hundreds of drivers disregarded the red cross lane closed signs. When the paramedics arrived on the scene, there was no way through until all the idiots in the closed lane squeezed over. The signs were clear, access required for emergency vehicles, but obviously hundreds of drivers thought their lives were more important.

Not much gets me going and I guess this happens all the time, but at least now it should reduce.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12...-face-100-fine/


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Re: Smart Motorway Lane Closures (Red Cross) [Re: DaveW] #581414
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About time too it won't stop but it might slow them down a bit swear


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Re: Smart Motorway Lane Closures (Red Cross) [Re: DaveW] #581428
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Although really it would be nice to fine the blokes who thought of removing the hard shoulder....
Perhaps a few hundred thousand.
Nick

Re: Smart Motorway Lane Closures (Red Cross) [Re: DaveW] #581431
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+1 Insanity really, they probably got promotion.


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Re: Smart Motorway Lane Closures (Red Cross) [Re: DaveW] #581523
15/06/19 07:55 AM
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Sadly the problem with smart motorways is the drivers are still the same dumb bunch as before.


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Re: Smart Motorway Lane Closures (Red Cross) [Re: DaveW] #581527
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In Germany, Austria and Switzerland drivers create an emergency vehicle lane when traffic slows on motorways by simply moving over to the far right side and the far left side of the adjoining lane to create a clear lane down the middle.

Seems to work pretty well from what I have seen and should have been introduced as part of the "smart motorway" roll out in the UK.

Re: Smart Motorway Lane Closures (Red Cross) [Re: nick w] #581544
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Originally Posted By nick w
Although really it would be nice to fine the blokes who thought of removing the hard shoulder....
Perhaps a few hundred thousand.
Nick


Strangely enough the stats are actually showing that lives are being saved by smart motorways. As most fatalities occur on the hard shoulder that has reduced as there is no hard shoulder and the emergency stop areas are more protection. I still don't like working on them.


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Re: Smart Motorway Lane Closures (Red Cross) [Re: DaveW] #581573
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Agree about the fine for going in a red X lane but on all lanes running smart motorways where there isnt a hard shoulder theres a greater risk of being hit from behind if you break down.

I would imagine there may be a reduction of deaths on hard shoulders but there will be an increase in deaths from rear end collisions when broken down. I also understand that there has been an increase in deaths to recovery drivers on smart motorways.


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Re: Smart Motorway Lane Closures (Red Cross) [Re: Burgundymog] #581576
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Would it be acceptable to enter a closed lane because of a mechanical failure, or puncture, and proceed at crawling speed to the next refuge area?


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Re: Smart Motorway Lane Closures (Red Cross) [Re: DaveW] #581577
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On the M1 when we were stuck there was little forward movement of anyone. We were not even doing crawling speed.


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