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Swapping clock for oil gauge on my +4 #586295
20/07/19 09:47 AM
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Had this on my mind to do for a while, so as its a wet morning I cracked on with it. Apologies for the photos not being in the correct order but i'm sure the sequence is obvious.

The clock quality is pretty grim, easy to remove by lowering the left hand under dash panel and carefully threading your hand up behind through the wiring unscrew the large plastic 'nut'. I used the power feed for the clock and the earth by removing the T block connector and ran the wire from the sender unit up through the existing grommet above the washer bottle.

Fitting the adaptor requires a bit of fiddling so that the hole for the sender is in the right place otherwise it fouls the block. PTFE tape a must and remember these are taper threads.

I also swapped the bezel for a V profile which was a closer match to the existing gauges. All sourced from Holdens.

And that's it..about an hour and a half which included stopping to look for a dropped washer!

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Steve

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1959 BSA Goldstar DBD34
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Re: Swapping clock for oil gauge on my +4 [Re: SteveT] #586302
20/07/19 10:25 AM
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Nice work Steve.


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Re: Swapping clock for oil gauge on my +4 [Re: SteveT] #586308
20/07/19 11:09 AM
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I think while I was there I would have moved over the speedo towards the driver.
Nice job though it looks lie a factory fitment.


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Re: Swapping clock for oil gauge on my +4 [Re: SteveT] #586314
20/07/19 11:31 AM
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I take it that they've supplied you with correct pressure transmitter for the gauge, 2185 3000 8N10, which is a 0 to 100 psi transmitter. I was supplied with 2615 4000 8N16 which was 0 to 160 psi transmitter (or in Caerbont's terms 0 to 10 bar). Not sure about the accuracy of any of the stuff supplied by Caerbont.

Re: Swapping clock for oil gauge on my +4 [Re: Lowflyer] #586318
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Originally Posted by Lowflyer
I take it that they've supplied you with correct pressure transmitter for the gauge, 2185 3000 8N10, which is a 0 to 100 psi transmitter. I was supplied with 2615 4000 8N16 which was 0 to 160 psi transmitter (or in Caerbont's terms 0 to 10 bar). Not sure about the accuracy of any of the stuff supplied by Caerbont.


Yes its 0-100 psi. I'm not sure how accurate either but figured its better than just the warning light.

John, not sure how much faff it is to switch speedo with rev counter, always reluctant to disturb too much of the electrickery stuff.


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Re: Swapping clock for oil gauge on my +4 [Re: SteveT] #586319
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Steve, is that a heatsink on your oil filter canister ?


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Re: Swapping clock for oil gauge on my +4 [Re: CooperMan] #586320
20/07/19 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CooperMan
Steve, is that a heatsink on your oil filter canister ?


Hi Jon, I wondered how long it would be before someone asked! Yes, no idea if it helps or not but it was a left over from my Harley Davidson days. Same size canister as the KN filter i use so thought why not..it was only gathering dust on my garage shelf.


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Re: Swapping clock for oil gauge on my +4 [Re: SteveT] #599487
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Steve or Anyone please,
I am having trouble getting the right t-piece for the oi pressure gauge sender. I've finally got the right sender 300-8n-10 but have been sent the wrong T piece and I don/t have a vernier to measure the thread size.
Can one of you help?

Re: Swapping clock for oil gauge on my +4 [Re: meabh] #599550
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Originally Posted by meabh
Steve or Anyone please,
I am having trouble getting the right t-piece for the oi pressure gauge sender. I've finally got the right sender 300-8n-10 but have been sent the wrong T piece and I don/t have a vernier to measure the thread size.
Can one of you help?


Hi, yes for the Ford engine its 1/4 x 18TPI, the side take off is 1/8 NPTF (27TPI) for the oil pressure adaptor unit.

Go to Holdens website, the part number is 070.026 although they had no stock when i needed it and i got mine from:

MATT LEWIS RACING
MATT LEWIS
UNIT 11C HOME FARM
RAD LANE
ABINGER HAMMER, DORKING
Surrey
RH5 6RA
United Kingdom

Hope it helps.


Steve

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Re: Swapping clock for oil gauge on my +4 [Re: SteveT] #599584
16/10/19 07:33 AM
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Steve,
You are a star.

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