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Steering wheel is sweating oil #586418
20/07/19 09:27 PM
20/07/19 09:27 PM
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Amberley, OH, USA
NelsonG Offline OP
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Hello all,

My car (66 Plus 4 RHD) has what I believe to be it’s original steering wheel, a lovely Bluemels Brooklands wheel. The material of the wheel, not sure if it’s hard rubber or Bakelite, or some other synthetic, has cracked in a few places. Is ok, so have I. But the steering wheel material sweats an oil. I have to wipe it down well with a dry paper towel, to be safe for driving.

Does anyone else experience this?

I assume the material is somehow made with the oil to start with. Is this a sign that it’s breaking down further and make crack off while driving?

Thoughts?

Thanks, Nelson


- Nelson

1966 Plus 4 RHD
Re: Steering wheel is sweating oil [Re: NelsonG] #586421
20/07/19 09:32 PM
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I don't know but I think it may well be breaking down in some way and after 53 years service I would definitely get a similar replacement and put the old one up on the garage wall somewhere knowing you have a safe steering wheel to drive with but keep your old companion.


Regards Richard

1999 Indigo Blue +8
2009 4/4 Sport Green
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Re: Steering wheel is sweating oil [Re: NelsonG] #586422
20/07/19 09:34 PM
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NelsonG Offline OP
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Sounds like a smart plan.


- Nelson

1966 Plus 4 RHD
Re: Steering wheel is sweating oil [Re: NelsonG] #586423
20/07/19 09:37 PM
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We have a couple of Chemists on here that maybe will tell us exactly what is happening to the structure of the wheel.


Regards Richard

1999 Indigo Blue +8
2009 4/4 Sport Green
1994 Connaught Green +8





Re: Steering wheel is sweating oil [Re: NelsonG] #586444
21/07/19 06:47 AM
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Plastics contain plasticizers. They are supposed to keep the plastic elastic over time. Some can diffuse out.
Plasticizers used in the past have sometimes been found to be harmful to health (e.g. diethylhexyl phthalate, DEHP).
I would change the steering wheel.


Michael
2018 Plus 4 Sport
Re: Steering wheel is sweating oil [Re: NelsonG] #586445
21/07/19 06:52 AM
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I saw on one of the TV car restoration programmes a specialist renewing the man made material of steering wheel rim from an old car. He had a variety of moulds to suit most designs. When clamped on fresh plastic of some sort was injected in. Maybe worth investigating.


Richard

2018 Roadster - Red/Magnolia - "Morton"
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Re: Steering wheel is sweating oil [Re: NelsonG] #586447
21/07/19 07:12 AM
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I have the same wheel and it's not gone anything like this. As Richard says as they're still available I'd replace it.


1972 4/4 2 Seater
Re: Steering wheel is sweating oil [Re: NelsonG] #586450
21/07/19 07:37 AM
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I'd give these guys a call..

https://www.steeringwheelrestoration.co.uk


Steve

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Re: Steering wheel is sweating oil [Re: NelsonG] #586451
21/07/19 07:43 AM
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As said it could be the plasticiser leaking out. These are not nice compounds. Replace it.


JohnV6
2006 Indigo Blue Roadster S1
Re: Steering wheel is sweating oil [Re: NelsonG] #586463
21/07/19 08:24 AM
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The Bluemels wheels were made of a Bakelite-like cellulose and do eventually break down. They can be filled with tinted epoxy. Mine has been filled and has a leather cover sewn on. I am not familiar with the weeping oil issue you describe, but have no clue how cellulose deteriorates.
You don't say what color wheel you have. They were made in cream, black, and marbled brown/cream. The 17" wheel you probably have is currently made in resin and only available in black.
This article may be of interest:
https://www.britishcarforum.com/bcf/content.php?548-RESTORING-A-VINTAGE-BLUEMEL-STEERING-WHEEL

Last edited by JCK; 21/07/19 08:46 AM.

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