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Re: Defender [Re: Fuel.inj] #592488
29/08/19 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuel.inj
JLR turn out the same clone range of vehicles which are so bland. I’ve had my 2007 Defender TD5 for a number of years now and the amount of compliments I get from various people amazes me.


The Td5 Defender is a magnificent beast, many reckon they are the best of the bunch - much smoother, more economical and more powerful than their predecessors but not with unmanageably complex electronics, the aftermarket Nanocom box is all you need. They are also proving to be far more reliable than originally expected. The LR Storm project engineers did a great job with the engine design.

I love our 2002 model, we've had it since it was 6 months old and I wouldn't swap it for the world.


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Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #592508
29/08/19 04:18 PM
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I'd buy one of these if the Lottery win comes in...

https://youtu.be/WhDuEmGBfvs

I think it would be the logical move for Alistair, far better than the ML, or whatever it is.


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Re: Defender [Re: Hamwich] #592511
29/08/19 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hamwich
Originally Posted by Fuel.inj
JLR turn out the same clone range of vehicles which are so bland. I’ve had my 2007 Defender TD5 for a number of years now and the amount of compliments I get from various people amazes me.


The Td5 Defender is a magnificent beast, many reckon they are the best of the bunch - much smoother, more economical and more powerful than their predecessors but not with unmanageably complex electronics, the aftermarket Nanocom box is all you need. They are also proving to be far more reliable than originally expected. The LR Storm project engineers did a great job with the engine design.

I love our 2002 model, we've had it since it was 6 months old and I wouldn't swap it for the world.


Before the Puma I had a TD5, Whilst I enjoy the 6 speed box and effective Air-Con/heating, I prefer the TD5. It just sounds so right in a Land Rover. (Cue the 200/300 TDI aficionados)
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Last edited by Rovert; 29/08/19 04:26 PM.

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Re: Defender [Re: Peter J] #592514
29/08/19 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter J
I'd buy one of these if the Lottery win comes in...
https://youtu.be/WhDuEmGBfvs
I think it would be the logical move for Alistair, far better than the ML, or whatever it is.


The best news is that the arrival of a new one that does not try and kill you every time you hit the loud pedal is that the older model has taken a dip in price. The old one still does not go around corners, stop or handle in any way but at least it does not cost as disgustingly much as it did before. Yet for some reason I love it. Must be the sidepipes. I love the new one's interior, handling, blatantly stupid price etc etc. My tight roots mean that I will never buy one. Well maybe when they are eight years old and slightly run in, as I pull the Audi A3's and BMW 1's out of the grill.


Just time to burn a little more petrol before dinner.
Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #594304
10/09/19 08:23 AM
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Well it's D Day.

Launched at Frankfurt, seems an odd choice...

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-britishcars/land-rover-defender--frankfurt-2019/40919


Just time to burn a little more petrol before dinner.
Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #594326
10/09/19 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Alistair
Well it's D Day.

Launched at Frankfurt, seems an odd choice...

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-britishcars/land-rover-defender--frankfurt-2019/40919



Well, Britain no longer has a proper Motor Show (that silly thing in May at the Excel Arena doesn't count). So I guess they looked at Slovakia or India (which would have some relevance) and chose Frankfurt!

Ps. I like it - especially as it seems that the ridiculous blanking panel ( 'signature' ) between the B pillar and C pillar is mandatory only on the 110 and is optional on the 90. The launch X spec seems a bit attention seeking, but useful to know there are 18" steel wheels available. I'll have to wait for mine as the P400e doesn't arrive until 2021. Hopefully will be possible to spec combination of 90, no blanking panel, no front bench, air sus or side steps - whatever costs less, p400e hybrid engine and steel wheels - and paint in a flat grey or green that matches the white steel wheels.


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Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #594387
10/09/19 02:38 PM
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Just another Chelsea tractor that will be taking up two slots in the supermarket car Park!

Re: Defender [Re: Fuel.inj] #594397
10/09/19 03:33 PM
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Yes we need these like we need plastic bottled water, they have both timed out IMHO.. Had it have been a farmer friendly vehicle that would be a whole new welcome ballgame, these will litter Waitrose car parks.
We saw it at FOS and it was fugly.


Regards Richard

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Re: Defender [Re: Fuel.inj] #594419
10/09/19 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuel.inj
Just another Chelsea tractor that will be taking up two slots in the supermarket car Park!


Possibly, but it won't be the fault of the car.

Width (including mirrors):

New Defender 1999mm
VW Golf MkVII 2027mm

Thankfully, the new Defender is only marginally wider than the old one, which was a very narrow vehicle. Anyone who has owned a LR Series car or Defender (you included, I believe) knows that a large part of their on-road usability comes from the fact they get through gaps other cars can't.

Last edited by twotribes; 10/09/19 05:00 PM.

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Re: Defender [Re: twotribes] #594421
10/09/19 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by twotribes
Originally Posted by Fuel.inj
Just another Chelsea tractor that will be taking up two slots in the supermarket car Park!


Possibly, but it won't be the fault of the car.

Width (including mirrors):

New Defender 1999mm
VW Golf MkVII 2027mm

Thankfully, the new Defender is only marginally wider than the old one, which was a very narrow vehicle. Anyone who has owned a LR Series car or Defender (you included, I believe) knows that a large part of their on-road usability comes from the fact they get through gaps other cars can't.


You are probably correct Stuart, but not sounding to be sexist, the number of females I see driving v large SUV’s in car parks leaves a lot to be desired as to their driving skills.

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