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Re: Electric Cars- collecting Tax [Re: TimG] #593611
05/09/19 08:13 AM
05/09/19 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TimG
When all UK homes have "smart" meters they are likely to have a function that can tell if a car is connected to a charger. I think if you take the grant for a home charger you have to have a smart meter. To tax public chargers would be relatively easy.


I suspect smart meters will eventually be used to charge the end user a variable tariff for juice, which will be constantly variable throughout the day / night depending on demand

There are also intelligent charge points which can feed power back into the grid from EV's that are plugged in with spare capacity


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Re: Electric Cars- collecting Tax [Re: DaveK] #593613
05/09/19 08:24 AM
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I plan to hook up a diesel generator - simple. smile

Don't forget that there is a luxury car tax already in place for vehicles over £40k.


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Re: Electric Cars- collecting Tax [Re: DaveK] #593825
06/09/19 11:20 AM
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Bavaria, Isarwinkel
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We are taxed for energy.
In Germany it is almost half of the price for the kwh that goes for tax and "Umlagen" (crossfinanig new energy incentives).
It should be easy to adjust that for dropping petrol tax.

Most of the problems dicussed are simply not existing.

What bugs me is the search for the one and only single solution - there is no.
Long distance is different from citiy traffic as people moving is from logistics.

We will have an even more complicated mix of solutions.

Density of city traffic can`t be solved with electric propulsion.

Get more Bromptons and alike on the streets - that is still the smartes form of mobility for cities...


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Re: Electric Cars- collecting Tax [Re: DaveK] #593916
07/09/19 03:14 AM
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Yes electric power only removes the pollution not the congestion.

I remember one day at work a lady complaining about the walk from the car park, as she gets in about 8:30am the small car park right next to the building is full so she has to walk 300 metres to the main car park. About 200 people working in that building ride pushbikes to work so I though to myself if we all drove then chances are she wouldn't even get a park in the main car park and have to park further away like maybe 500 metres.

As parking prices go up and congestion gets worse I notice a lot more people on the bike paths which I think is a good thing, apart from the ones riding electric bikes that don't seem to have the experience to handle a bike well but riding at the speeds of experienced riders or even faster and I am sure are going to cause an accident sooner or later.

If the concept of driver less cars ever hits our streets I can imagine congestion getting even worse. At the moment the number of cars on the road is controlled by the number of licensed drivers. So maybe dad drives to work and mum drops off the kids on the way to her work, then maybe the kids catch a bus home and raid whatever they can find in the fridge. In the future I see a possibility where dad goes to work, mum goes to work, the two kids go in different driver-less Uber cars because they are at different schools, then the kids come home also via driver-less cars, don't like what is in the fridge so order Macdonalds via their phone to turn up via one driver-less car and ice-cream from somewhere else to turn up in another driver-less car.

Re: Electric Cars- collecting Tax [Re: DaveK] #593939
07/09/19 09:29 AM
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All this talk of electric cars to reduce pollution at the point of use is very laudable in as much as the nasty emissions will reduce the green house effect, however what are we going to do about all the cow, sheep, horse and goat farts that happen every day?
That is a vast amount of methane going into the atmos and if you take it to ludicrous limits what about us as humans? Just a thought on a wet Saturday!!


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Re: Electric Cars- collecting Tax [Re: DaveK] #593970
07/09/19 04:02 PM
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Put self lighters on the back of them to burn it off ?


Just time to burn a little more petrol before dinner.
Re: Electric Cars- collecting Tax [Re: DaveK] #593986
07/09/19 07:38 PM
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We could eat most of them if you can pass legislation banning the selfish habits of the vegetarians. They are not doing their part to help cut down on the methane problem. I'm sure they will object to the intrusion on their preferred lifestyle. They are just going to have to suck it up and do the right thing for the sake of the planet. It's a small thing to ask for in light of the real serious problem we are facing.


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Re: Electric Cars- collecting Tax [Re: DaveK] #593991
07/09/19 08:20 PM
07/09/19 08:20 PM
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Hampshire
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Hampshire
We can't eat them all, it would mean students have nothing left to go tipping at midnight.


Just time to burn a little more petrol before dinner.
Re: Electric Cars- collecting Tax [Re: lowebird] #593994
07/09/19 08:56 PM
07/09/19 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by lowebird
All this talk of electric cars to reduce pollution at the point of use is very laudable in as much as the nasty emissions will reduce the green house effect, however what are we going to do about all the cow, sheep, horse and goat farts that happen every day?
That is a vast amount of methane going into the atmos and if you take it to ludicrous limits what about us as humans? Just a thought on a wet Saturday!!

Well Reg the Argies are way ahead of us in that department at least in the trials stages, this image is from 2014 and the take off seems to be prior to the rear box so should be silent in operation juggle

[Linked Image]

Rain what rain, it's been 18C here and full on sunshine at the Kingsbridge Agricultural Show and the air was full of Horse, Cow, Sheep, Camel and Farmer fart but we all survived another years exposure cheers and it is far more preferable than the BS emanating from London Village on the bank of the Thames.
The Camel Racing and Tractor Football were good spectator events, a great day out meeting old friends for a catch up.


Regards Richard

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