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Re: PlusSix vs Plus 8, back to back [Re: RichardV6] #596165
22/09/19 11:02 AM
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Peter J Offline OP
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Originally Posted by Richard Wood
Originally Posted by Peter J
Originally Posted by pete757
Thoughts...

1: What is the warrantee period for the Plus 6?

2: Are Morgan having all their dealer mechanics trained on the complexities of the plus 6

3: If something goes wrong a few years down the line it could be a tad expensive to fix!


Answers....

1. Warranty is 3 years, as all modern Morgans.

2. The Plus Six is little more complex than the Plus8. Some dealers struggle with these cars, but the bigger ones don't. There will be many more Plus 6 cars than Aeros. All the dealer needs to do is hire a BMW trained technician....

3. Yes, as is the case with all modern computer managed cars.


Sorry Peter the warranty is clearly stated in handbook as 30 months or 30,000 miles (2016 M3W and 2018 Roadster). Have not heard of any reports on it changing in the last year unless Aero's were different [Linked Image]


So I checked.
Yes, I was wrong. redcard goodnight
The handbook and service log states Tarka had 2 year's Warranty or 24,000 miles.....

It would seem that they increased it to 30 months 0r 30,000 miles.


Peter,
66, 2016 Porsche Boxster S
No longer driving Tarka, the 2014 Plus 8...

Re: PlusSix vs Plus 8, back to back [Re: Peter J] #596414
23/09/19 07:15 PM
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Whilst my pal was at BMW today collecting his new 330e, I asked the sales Mgr to pop the bonnet on a brand new Z4, from an engine packaging view the PlusSix almost has a much space to work on it

Strangely, the auto gearstick was different to the Mog one and much shorter


Jon M
Re: PlusSix vs Plus 8, back to back [Re: Peter J] #597418
30/09/19 12:15 PM
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Just happened upon ths post and thought I'd throw my two penneth in...

After a year with my +8 Speedster and battling with the weather (and a poor choice of weekends for long trips over the summer) we finally decied that the Speedster was not for us.

We vsited Krazy Horse and Dan kindy let us take out the Plus 6. I must say that I didn't treat it with kid gloves or spare the horses (Dan was sat next to me so it wasn't that bad) and I found the Plus 6 a ferociously fast. Very significantly faster than the Plus 8.

Did we buy one? Well, no actually. As with most of us I wasn't looking for ultimate engine performance and after a further test drive in a Raodster we traded the Plus 8 in for a nearly new Roadster. Objectively not a patch on the Plus 6 but a car we formed an instant attachment to. As my wife said after 10 minutes in the Roadster - 'This is a car we could love'..

We've now got the Roadster and done a few good trips alraedy. Nohwere near as fast as the Plus 6 (although not massively slower than the Plus 8) but certainly fast enough. The only slight gripe is the rev hang but I'll drive around that until a solution can be found (might be too optimistic here).

Frankly the Plus 6 test drive was put into context by having had a new Boxster on loan just the day before. We spent a happy day in the Derbyshire Peak District with that and were really impressed. And it was about £35k cheaper than the Morgan. Net result of this was the Plus 8 was changed for a Roadster (as already explained above) and my wifes MX5 is now being changed for a Boxster.

Nothing above means I don't like the Plus 6 and I well understand Morgan's motivation to improve and modernise. I just hope they keep what is the essence of the car. We found the Boxster (yes a turbo as well) to be a massively competent and fun car and thats why it got our vote over the Plus 6. But the Roadster gives us the emotional satisfaction.

I am sure others will disagree but for us its a Roadster...


Ian

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Re: PlusSix vs Plus 8, back to back [Re: Peter J] #597438
30/09/19 01:42 PM
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Good to hear some more views on the Plus Six!

Re: PlusSix vs Plus 8, back to back [Re: Peter J] #597439
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Great perspective Almond :>)

Nice one.


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Re: PlusSix vs Plus 8, back to back [Re: Peter J] #597446
30/09/19 02:44 PM
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Almond...I would have put money on you getting the +6 !!!

I could sense you had had your time with the Speedster..

Good luck with the Roadster...have you ever considered a P4SS I wonder !!!!! (hee hee)


Regards

Kevin


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Re: PlusSix vs Plus 8, back to back [Re: Peter J] #597448
30/09/19 03:01 PM
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For MSCC Members, my Plus Six review has been published in the latest Miscellany.

I'm going up to Williams again in late October, it will be interesting to try the Plus Six again.


Peter,
66, 2016 Porsche Boxster S
No longer driving Tarka, the 2014 Plus 8...

Re: PlusSix vs Plus 8, back to back [Re: KEVFITZ] #597580
01/10/19 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by KEVFITZ
Almond...I would have put money on you getting the +6 !!!

I could sense you had had your time with the Speedster..

Good luck with the Roadster...have you ever considered a P4SS I wonder !!!!! (hee hee)


Regards

Kevin

Indeed Kev. I have only admiration for the likes of John Wynn and co who churn out the miles in their Speedsters. Clearly I was born too far south!

I also was sure I was going to buy the Plus 6 and was a bit puzzled that I came home without one. Puzzled but not displeased....

Now. An Almond P4SS - there is a car to love!.


Ian

A convert to the joy of Morgans after years of motorcycles
Re: PlusSix vs Plus 8, back to back [Re: Peter J] #597605
01/10/19 10:37 AM
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Ian, interesting perspective & glad you enjoy the Roadster

On the subject of rev-hang, when I spoke to KH they are hoping to develop a software cure for this, but Dan said it's initial cost to then will he quite high - so perhaps if we could find a way of 3.7 owners letting KH know they are interested, it may help Dan to commit

(apologies for the thread drift)

Last edited by CooperMan; 01/10/19 10:39 AM.

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Re: PlusSix vs Plus 8, back to back [Re: Peter J] #603365
13/11/19 05:20 AM
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A question from an Aero man,

Are MMC still producing the Roadster now they have the Plus 6 ?

Would seem silly to me keeping the 2 models going, and am i correct in thinking the Roadster has a V6 Mustang engine as apposed to the
BMW Plus 6.


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