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drives - the type in front of your house #596122
21/09/19 11:08 PM
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Chester, UK
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the current big decision is 'should we resurface our drive' and if so what with.

As well as the Morgan I also have a triumph stag and both drip fluids occasionally (more so the stag). Theres no way I'm pulling the engine out to fit new seals as even if I do it'll start dripping again very soon.

So who has what type of drive and how do you manage oil drips?

our current preferred solution is block paving, sealed with some sort of 'drive seal' but does it work?

thanks

Gary


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Re: drives - the type in front of your house [Re: Grumpy2] #596123
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Our driveway is called Faux Brick, although it is also called Stencilled Concrete. They lay down concrete, wait for it to be 90% dry and put down the stencil, throw coloured powder on it and trowel it over, then pull up the stencil. If you google faux brick or stencilled concrete you should find more information. In our case it was laid as a new driveway 4 inches thick but I have heard of people having an old driveway sand blasted and a new layer of concrete put over with the stencilled pattern done.

Every two years I reseal it with https://cswcoatings.com.au/product/protect-enhance/ After lots of cleaning I put the first coat of sealer and throw this https://cswcoatings.com.au/product/extra-grip-additive/ on top. Then I do the second layer and it goes over the crushed glass beads to bond it in. The result is a nice easy to clean surface that is not that slippery.

I have 300 square metres of driveway, patio behind the house and paths around the house. It takes me about a week to scrub it clean, then 4 days to do the 2 coats, I do two coats for the driveway and paths, then move the BBQ, table tennis table, garden table and seats etc. onto the paths while I do the Patio. I try to do it while a neighbour is away so I can park in their driveway (compensation for checking their letterbox and watering their garden) as it can't be driven on for a few days.

My driveway is 27 years old and while I plan to do it every two years I have only done it about 5 times in those years, unfortunately it has a few cracks and water gets in and damaged it. I think if I had sealed it every two or at least three years it would still look like new. But i think it still looks pretty good.

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Re: drives - the type in front of your house [Re: Grumpy2] #596128
22/09/19 04:21 AM
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Your local council may have rules about what materials can be used as impermeable drives can give problems with water management. Our drive is quite long (50m or so) over a band of clay and has to be permeable so we had it excavated, a steel/plastic mesh went down followed by hardcore, then a few tons of Type 1 granite(chippings of various sizes down to dust) rolled in so that it all locks together. As the years go by the it looks better and better.

A good solution for a rural location, maybe not n an urban setting.

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Re: drives - the type in front of your house [Re: Grumpy2] #596129
22/09/19 05:56 AM
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Gravel drive with drainage underneath so permeable and lasts ages and is fairly cheap. You can hear if someone arrives too !


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Re: drives - the type in front of your house [Re: Grumpy2] #596130
22/09/19 07:00 AM
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We have a light coloured resin drive, the type you see in pedestrianised shopping centres etc. I was concerned about oil drips especially considering I park my Defender on it. But as it is a porous product so when oil marks appear then a spray with a bio degradable degreaser, brush it in and rinsed off and it’s gone. Can’t recommend the finish of the drive itself.

Re: drives - the type in front of your house [Re: Grumpy2] #596131
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As you already have a driveway I am guessing you already have some sort of drainage system that works perfectly..If not perhaps best to think drainage first..! Less than wise to be laying an expensive drive and then discovering drainage can REALLY matter..? Best advice I have seen on the web can be found in the link, and the book is well worth buying too. If you are not the hands on type at least it provides education enough to determine whether the labour you employ is knowledgeable relative to the task in hand, or just some cowboy outfit..?

http://www.pavingexpert.com/home.htm

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Driveways-Paths-Patios-Management-Construction/dp/1861267789

Good luck in your choices.

Re: drives - the type in front of your house [Re: Grumpy2] #596138
22/09/19 07:38 AM
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I would always go for gravel particularly with leaky cars , it takes minimal maintenance if done properly, just an occasional rake around . It's easy to top up and refresh after a few years .

An alternative which my sister has just had done , is areas of different materials in different places , she had an area of block paving which she wanted to extend a bit , she thought it'd look too bleak all paved on the north side of the house so had the new areas gravelled , looks very nice and breaks up a large expanse . A bonus is how much light is reflected into the house from the lighter gravel (replacing grass) I found this too when I extended my gravel .

Re: drives - the type in front of your house [Re: Grumpy2] #596139
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We have gravel - it's usually pretty cheap, and looks good.


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Re: drives - the type in front of your house [Re: Grumpy2] #596140
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We have block paving. Previously we had stencilled concrete.
We found the stencilled concrete very slippy in winter (we lived in the Chilterns & the drive was a steep hill). Also the sealant is a solvent based fluid that I think gives you an exposure to chemicals you don't really need.

That was replaced by block paving & when we moved to Suffolk we have that too.

Our cars don't leak oil but builders vans etc have leaked on the drive. I found that can be removed with white spirit or detergent.
As you can see the blocks are quite light in colour. An alternative could be to buy extra blocks to replace dirty ones.
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Re: drives - the type in front of your house [Re: Grumpy2] #596145
22/09/19 08:09 AM
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Chester, UK
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excellent detailed responses, many thanks. Drainage is indeed already established, current drive is tarmac (old and degrading hence replacement) and all tradesmen have mentioned drainage during quotes.

I'd be interested to hear from someone with blocks who has used a drive seal type product.

there are a few covenants on our house one of which states that we must have a solid drive so no chipping/gravel

thanks

Gary


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