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Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #595363
16/09/19 06:11 PM
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When I read the article in topgear I have to admit that they thought a lot of things about the development of the car.


'14 4/4 graphite grey
Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #595447
17/09/19 12:50 PM
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49725825

Looks like a better Defender is going to be built soon at Bridgend !

Last edited by madmax; 17/09/19 12:51 PM.

Geneva 2016 plus 8' The Green Godess' 4 side exits .


Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #595454
17/09/19 01:45 PM
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Hampshire
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God bless him for doing something useful in a stinky climate if it does go ahead. Great way to turn a large fortune into a small fortune. If the government give some edge to him to reduce the impact of all the job losses it would be a good thing.


Just time to burn a little more petrol before dinner.
Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #595457
17/09/19 02:09 PM
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Can't see any reason why Jim Ratcliffe should be given taxpayers' money, since he's moved himself offshore to avoid paying his fair share.


Giles. Mogless in Paris.
Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #595521
17/09/19 06:51 PM
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Ahh those mad boy South Africans, gotta love the attitude. The steering wheel is even in the right place!

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-japanesecars/toyota-announces-v8-land-cruiser-namib/40969

Last edited by Alistair; 17/09/19 06:52 PM.

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Re: Defender [Re: MJF] #596238
22/09/19 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MJF
I don't really understand the anti 4x4 feelings on here.



Let me try. hide They are an essentially selfish choice for the typical purchaser without a farm / estate / or similar need.. For most B road and smaller, they are too big making life difficult for other roads users. On other roads and particularly with the common "privacy" glass they block out forward vision for road users in normal cars, they take up more parking room, they cause more pollution because of bigger engines / greater fuel consumption. And it seems to me that what once was the BMW lane on the motorway is now populated by Range Rovers driven agressively and fast.

And a significant proportion seem to be driven by women who have no real feel for the size of the thing they are driving nor the speed its going at.

Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #596256
23/09/19 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by howard
And a significant proportion seem to be driven by women who have no real feel for the size of the thing they are driving nor the speed its going at.

But they feel so safe! Pity about the occupants of the small city car that they just crushed.

I have come to believe that drivers of the big SUVs, say over 2,000 kg, should have to have a special licence and undergo a course of training and a driving test.


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Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #596257
23/09/19 07:05 AM
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+1 Peter having been literally driven into a hedge by one.


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Re: Defender [Re: Alistair] #596290
23/09/19 09:00 AM
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Do we need additional training to drive a high powered sports car? Maybe anyone over the age of 60 with outdated thinking on male /female capabilities needs some sort of training?My wife drives our 110 every day along unmade up tracks and so far seems to have avoided running anyone intro a ditch? the 110 is actually narrower than most cars! so on country lanes in Devon squeezes past places other vehicles cant? As to greater fuel consumption - my 1971 Series 2a probably has a lighter carbon footprint than a recent Prius. Look at the cost of manufacture and longevity of much of the JLR output over 50 years vs actual fuel consumption of equally expensively made - but short lasting vehicles that use 10mpg less??

Just a few alternative views.


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Re: Defender [Re: JB62] #596294
23/09/19 09:34 AM
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Devonshire
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A breath of fresh air on the topic, I see exactly those sort of good road skills exhibited in my rural area including Dartmoor by the lady drivers of Defenders some of whom will be farmers wives or equestrians I imagine and they are very courteous drivers. Not so the Japanese and German 4x4 drivers on the local school run though they really don't seem to have a care for other drivers at all.


Regards Richard

1999 Indigo Blue +8
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