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Re: Advice sought re "1 shot lubrication" system [Re: +8Rich] #599589
16/10/19 08:04 AM
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+1 re Mr Button - v touching story and I echo Rich’s sentiment
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Re: Advice sought re "1 shot lubrication" system [Re: CarMart] #599590
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Though relatively new to this Morgan maintenance lark compared to some of you I believe that the factory fitted push button oiler and grease at lower can work fine if operated how Morgan advise, and I am aware that our local Morgan restoration man with many years of experience concurs.
If I was to change the kingpins in the future I am quite keen on trying 2205 pins with Vesconite bushes as I have lots of experience with this combination in aggressive marine situations.


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Re: Advice sought re "1 shot lubrication" system [Re: Button] #599606
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Hi always look for your input to the many posts I read.enjoy your engineers outlook to problems and positive outlook to life .A star.


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Re: Advice sought re "1 shot lubrication" system [Re: waikiore] #599623
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Originally Posted by waikiore
Though relatively new to this Morgan maintenance lark compared to some of you I believe that the factory fitted push button oiler and grease at lower can work fine if operated how Morgan advise, and I am aware that our local Morgan restoration man with many years of experience concurs.
If I was to change the kingpins in the future I am quite keen on trying 2205 pins with Vesconite bushes as I have lots of experience with this combination in aggressive marine situations.


I have used Vesconite and Chrome KP's for many years. The idea of Vesconite came from a Australian Mining Engineer.


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Re: Advice sought re "1 shot lubrication" system [Re: Button] #599685
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Originally Posted by Button
The idea of Vesconite came from a Australian Mining Engineer.

I thought it was from an American from Vesconsin.

Last edited by BobtheTrain; 16/10/19 08:29 PM.

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Re: Advice sought re "1 shot lubrication" system [Re: BobtheTrain] #599689
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Originally Posted by BobtheTrain
Originally Posted by Button
The idea of Vesconite came from a Australian Mining Engineer.

I thought it was from an American from Vesconsin.


No that was the Model T from Wishigan


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Re: Advice sought re "1 shot lubrication" system [Re: CarMart] #599697
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Re: Advice sought re "1 shot lubrication" system [Re: CarMart] #599804
17/10/19 06:19 PM
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I had the one-shot on my first car....1993.
If I was going to keep the car I would have removed it.
My current car has grease system and I grease at 1000 miles MAX intervals. If away on a weekender I grease again, irrespective of mileage lapse. I have hard chrome kingpins and done 30k+ miles and no signs of wear when doing the wheel shake test. When greasing I lever up the bronze plate and grease until some comes out from the gap,a tip from Phil at Allon White when buying my first Mog fromhim. A pneumatic greaser makes it easier.
Grease is cheap and greasing allows a quick check on the underside/hubs etc..
Just to add that the rear leaf springs should be treated too. The consensus is to spray chain lube on them as it penetrates between the leaves. Not as frequent as the front but about 4/6 times a year (7k+ annual mileage).

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Re: Advice sought re "1 shot lubrication" system [Re: CarMart] #599854
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For what it is worth I removed the one shot oiler on both my 64 4/4 and 94 +8, why: because the oil can wash out the grease and does not actually do any real lubrication of the system. Also as happened in my +8 if you get a leak in the system you can rapidly lose oil (as its under pressure when engine running) which is not good for engine!!! Unless you have new Kingpins or have drilled out the old ones it is no use putting grease nipples in the top as the grease will not go down the pin. Just grease from the bottom every 1000 miles or seasonal oil change whichever is sooner, use gaiters too. On my 94 +8 I have over 75,000 miles and very little play in the original Kingpins.

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Re: Advice sought re "1 shot lubrication" system [Re: CarMart] #599869
18/10/19 07:44 AM
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Seems to be consensus that the one shot oiler is not very important (or unimportant) and can even be harmful if the oil is hot. And according to the gurus, fitting a grease nipple to the top of the KP is useless because the channel drilled down the KP is so thin that it doesn't permit grease to penetrate, just oil. So if one doesn't want to use the one shot oiler system, why can't one do just that? What is the purpose of dismantling the system as long as one keeps the KPs unchanged?


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