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AMG...has lost the plot? #600483
22/10/19 07:57 PM
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Quote from Autocar:

The Mercedes-AMG C63 will exchange its glorious 4.0-litre V8 for a turbocharged and hybridised 2.0-litre four-cylinder petrol-electric setup when the next all-new version arrives, in what has to be the most dramatic drivetrain switch we’ve yet seen from any of the major manufacturers.

AMG will just have to hope that its future customers are more interested in electric drive capability than the noise and character that continues to define the brand’s very identity. scared


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Re: AMG...has lost the plot? [Re: MDS61] #600489
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Maybe AMG doesn't have that much assertiveness in the Mercedes Group. When I borrowed the (very impressive) AMG GTC for a weekend in August, I asked the Mercedes branch how to imagine a successor to such a fantastic car. The answer was: There will be no successor (of this character).


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Re: AMG...has lost the plot? [Re: MDS61] #600495
22/10/19 08:49 PM
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Yes I have heard this elsewhere. The introduction of the 53 series of V6/electric boost has set the scene.
Whilst they have been masters of making the turbo V8 era still sound boombastic but this will be interesting to watch.

I am not saying a 4 pot cannot be fun and sound funky but the noise a 90 or flat plane V8 makes is just so iconic. If I am not getting that (and sidepipes) I may as well go for a elecy iPad charger.


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Re: AMG...has lost the plot? [Re: MDS61] #600499
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The sound of a large capacity petrol V8 will be consigned to history, in the same way that a four cylinder steam locomotive at full bore has been.

You will hear it occasionally in real life, and there will always be some around. But not new.


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Re: AMG...has lost the plot? [Re: MDS61] #600508
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The world needs more of these magnificent creations, 3,500cc per cylinder. A visual and aural feast thumbs

Apologies for the drift..





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Re: AMG...has lost the plot? [Re: MDS61] #600518
23/10/19 12:07 AM
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Anything with side pipes sounds good,.... until your neighbour cranks it up at 3.00am.


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Re: AMG...has lost the plot? [Re: DaveW] #600549
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Originally Posted by DaveW
The sound of a large capacity petrol V8 will be consigned to history, in the same way that a four cylinder steam locomotive at full bore has been.

You will hear it occasionally in real life, and there will always be some around. But not new.


Which is why I'll keep Tarka as long as I can....
We have two AMG Turbo cars, one V6 3L and one L4 2L, both make interesting noises, aided by the computers and trick exhausts, but neither sound like the V8 in Tarka.


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Re: AMG...has lost the plot? [Re: MDS61] #600553
23/10/19 09:10 AM
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As I have oft times admitted, I am a petrol head... I have some skills.. many of which are now of little to no value due to the impact of ever advancing technological processes, and perhaps my lack of ability or willingness to try to keep up..I suspect there may be be many like me in the baby boomer category..who now just shrug and accept such processes as all just part of human evolution..?

As for a starting point in terms of technological evolution you could pick the invention of the wheel or the industrial revolution or the first manned flight or whatever...? I suspect that such is the amount of media coverage on both climate change and general pollution, that there will be changes required in many areas of life..?

The one time easily dismissive image of untidy, earthy, unemployed, nothing better to do tree huggers types as those who wish to save the planet has moved on somewhat don`t you think, perhaps to the extent that not only large car manufacturers are and have been investing in alternative technology, much as Formula 1 has been doing it for quite a number of years, so to find that AMG as a company renown to provide Mercedes cars with a tad more oomph is now incorporating a measure of similar technology should really come as no surprise...?

As for how long we might be able to enjoy the pleasures of the technology we grew up with... don`t ask me..! I suspect it might be best to enjoy what you can while you can, before whatever restrictions might be put in place come to affect so much of the way it used to be... I suspect if like me you are around the age of the average baby boomer, perhaps you need not worry too much about confiscation of your V8 at this moment in time, if ever before you loose your grip on the perch, but it just might cost you a lot more to run in a shorter period of time than you might think...? As for how that might alter it`s perception of value to you, if not the in the classic car market, if one such still exists in time... hmm..?

From my point of view Richard, an apology for posting a vid of a wonderful machine on open pipes will never be needed, thread drift or not.. Thread drift is my speciality...(-:

My old Mog is a tad..err..noisy, and trying to creep out for early morning drives as is my habit, requires starting it up in the garage with doors closed and gentle throttle operation till I get out of earshot of the few neighbours I have. I guess that is perhaps not the primary reason I have not considered ownership of one of those aero engined behemoths that I tend to drool over... rofl

Re: AMG...has lost the plot? [Re: MDS61] #600562
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ADDENDUM.. Double Luddite...sigh..! Apologies

In the off chance that which I typed seemed a tad gloomy there are options for some classic`s to be kinda future-proofed..?

Richard I know now you have a liking for the Targa.. interested..? (-:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJLdzRJdKrs&t=58s

This vid series had loads of stuff on electric cars of numerous types that you might find educational..?

Re: AMG...has lost the plot? [Re: Luddite] #600599
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Originally Posted by Luddite
ADDENDUM.. Double Luddite...sigh..! Apologies

In the off chance that which I typed seemed a tad gloomy there are options for some classic`s to be kinda future-proofed..?

Richard I know now you have a liking for the Targa.. interested..? (-:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJLdzRJdKrs&t=58s

This vid series had loads of stuff on electric cars of numerous types that you might find educational..?

Interestingly the car builder's name is Richard Morgan smile


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