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The end of the last real sportscar #607366
11/12/19 08:24 AM
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Autocar seems to know what´s going on. Maybe it is necessary, but I really don´t like it! scared

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...93PKQyLOruum-7xMbrzEB7xU-UhVsxP1vEzaVRts


2018 +4, persian blue
Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: tommog] #607369
11/12/19 08:37 AM
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Just as Dan at Krazy Horse told me.
A CX chassis with smaller Mustang turbo straight 4 & manual box would be interesting.


JohnV6
2006 Indigo Blue Roadster S1
Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: tommog] #607387
11/12/19 09:27 AM
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I want to an exhibition at the V&A at the weekend about cars & someone had spent many hours producing a large timeline / flowchart with all the manufacturers tracked through the years of car evolution, mergers, buyouts. BUT very sadly Morgan were completely missed off

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Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: John V6] #607393
11/12/19 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by John V6
Just as Dan at Krazy Horse told me.
A CX chassis with smaller Mustang turbo straight 4 & manual box would be interesting.


Agreed, I note that Ford's latest Mustang brochure tones down the 2.3 Ecoboost output to 285 bhp (I had seen 310!), only a tad more than Roadsters 3.7 V6 at 280 bhp.


Richard

2018 Roadster - Red/Magnolia - "Morton"
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Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: tommog] #607400
11/12/19 10:23 AM
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”The performance and all-round capability of the Plus Six has proved so good that Morgan bosses regard it as a spiritual successor for the potent Plus 8 of former times, rather than the V6 Roadster.”

Sorry, but I don’t think it will have one tenth of the charisma or character of a traditional Plus 8.


David
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Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: tommog] #607403
11/12/19 10:45 AM
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Morgan, as I love it, is dead. Very sad.


2003 Morgan 4/4 2-seater

Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: tommog] #607408
11/12/19 11:06 AM
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"Morgan has not confirmed an official end date for production of the traditional steel chassis models but recognises a period where it will be produced alongside CXGeneration models before its discontinuation in 2020."

MMC press release https://www.morgan-motor.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Morgan-models-2020-announcement.pdf

Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: tommog] #607415
11/12/19 11:43 AM
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I'm just really glad I am the age I am, which means I have been able to drive a "trad" for many years, renewing every seven to nine years.

It's no criticism of the new chassis, and I wish them nothing but good fortune, but I have no interest in an aluminium chassis car. I loved the driving of a 1930s engineered car, I love all the features which are now classed as problems. I enjoyed coaxing the car round corners, learning to get the best from it, manual gearbox (I know the new autos are faster changing but there's no skill involved, no satisfaction for me - it's a case of input) that feeling that your driving skill was increasing as you got to know the car (it may be an illusion but a great one). I liked old fashioned design of the engineering.....for me the new aluminium chassis cars are a pastiche of the old ones (albeit very lovely pastiches) ......I never really liked the superform wings as much as the old handformed ones, that's how sad I am..........if I want modern performance characteristics I'll choose a modern car.

Luckily for the factory, at my age, I'm a dying out species and so not their future target buyer.

I'm sure they are making the right decision, but they are no longer for me. The end of a long love affair.
Nick

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Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: tommog] #607426
11/12/19 01:07 PM
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Nick, even though it saddens me that you have to choose past tense. In my eyes with your post you have written one of the most beautiful summaries and homage to the traditional Morgan.
My statement has nothing to do with the desirable success or the necessity of the successor. This post belongs to the traditional Morgan all alone.


'14 4/4 graphite grey
Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: Quicksilver] #607435
11/12/19 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver


Sorry, but I don’t think it will have one tenth of the charisma or character of a traditional Plus 8.


I have always thought that "character" in a car = faults. Thats why Porsche's are characterless.

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