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Re: Gearbox removal [Re: Dave Turner] #609532
23/12/19 06:55 PM
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I use a Comma ATF over here in my R380, as you suggest there are many different opinions on this one.
This is what Gomog has to say on the matter.


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Re: Gearbox removal [Re: Dave Turner] #609549
24/12/19 12:02 AM
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Don't get talked into converting to a Borg Warner T-5 Transmission. That is what I used when I built My +8 Bitsa. My T-5 works well but I had a mis match of parts to start with. I have driven +8's with the Rover transmission and it worked very well. Maybe better than the T-5 at least as good. I think some +8 Racers in the UK like the T-5 for some reason I am not sure why.


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Re: Gearbox removal [Re: Dave Turner] #609550
24/12/19 12:27 AM
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Oh no I am not switching transmissions, I have a T5 in my TVR Griffith 500 and while the T5 has a taller and more useable first gear I think they are both excellent transmissions . For the most part I start the Morgan in second gear anyway it’s a 4.6 dynoed at near 300hp and buckets of torque .
I have just removed seats tunnel and transmission cover to remove the shift assembly and found some play in the 2 nylon ball joints , not a great deal but I will take care of it tomorrow then I think I will change the oil again while it’s so easy .
Then I suppose I will have to wait until Christmas is out of the way before I can give it a good test run .
Cheers Dave

Re: Gearbox removal [Re: Dave Turner] #609635
24/12/19 04:40 PM
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John...replacement “cups” for the gearshift are rarer than hen’s teeth. Even rarer than a politician who answers questions!
UKC 3159 is the part number. They have a weakness where the tab snaps due to fatigue. Mine had been welded by a previous owner but strengthening tabs need to be added. I made a small bracket to beef up mine and bolted it above the fixing tab. I also dribble a bit of oil down to reduce friction against the gear lever ball that sits under it. The gear hange is much better with the repaired cup.
A thought........ it appears anyone with the R380 or LT77 box seems to have the issue long term so I wonder if some could be made by an enterprising engineer with access to a suitable press. I guess set up cost and volume are limiting factors though.


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Re: Gearbox removal [Re: Dave Turner] #609674
24/12/19 10:41 PM
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There is also the UKC8764 dust cap which is basically the same as the UKC3159 but the UKC8764 needs some slots cut in it to match those in the UKC3159. I think the UKC8764 was used on the LT77 remote. I used one on my R380 box last year. It is listed by http://mgrovergenuine.co.uk/ but currently out of stock, may be worth asking them if they will get stock.


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Re: Gearbox removal [Re: Dave Turner] #609698
25/12/19 08:50 AM
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Yep, I built a tab from some scrap metal and pop rivetted it on. 6 months later Rimmers finally sent me a new one.


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Re: Gearbox removal [Re: Dave Turner] #610113
29/12/19 05:12 AM
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Many thanks for the input guys but it looks like it’s gearbox out sometime in the future.
I removed the remote shifter housing and shimmed out a small amount of play in the bushings I also found one of the bell housing bolts had come loose and was touching the bulkhead which I thought was promising , after refitting the bolt and changing the oil for Mobil 1 75/90 synthetic I put the whole thing back together and out for a test run today . The noise is still there though I think possibly reduced , perhaps wishful thinking or the fact that it was cool out today .
It’s prevalent as I come to a stop or slow to a walking pace , doesn’t matter if it’s in gear or neutral , clutch engaged or not it will persist until about 5 seconds after I reach a complete stop then disappear , it sounds quite fast like engine speed rather than road speed and isn’t affected by increasing the engine speed .
There is a small bearing between the gearbox input shaft and the main shaft that is currently the prime suspect but it will have to wait untill I am home in Canada 2000kms away , perhaps a next winter project .
Cheers Dave

Re: Gearbox removal [Re: Dave Turner] #610130
29/12/19 09:08 AM
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Sorry to hear that Dave. Good luck.


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