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Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: tommog] #612609
15/01/20 08:31 PM
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At £61k - makes the PlusSix look cheap...now that is clever!!!

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Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: tommog] #612612
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I have a small pension pot, an Isa, a small nest egg in the bank and a 4/4 in the garage, - what could possibly go wrong? MMC abandon their core classic 4/4 and +4.
Its a great pity; all I can afford now is from the plethora of Morgan branded trinkets at the check out. "Sorry Sir - "We have no car for sale under £60,000".
As far as I am concerned the firm is history and the brand is dead. tumbleweed


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Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: Jens] #612618
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Originally Posted by Jens
They should have done a +4 with the small (4/4) body, classic studded hood in black mohair, silver painted wire wheels, the old chrome bumpers with horns, the old badges with the classic Morgan wings and a Bluemels steering wheel, wooden dash .
Two sheepskin flying jackets for every car with the old Morganwings, "70" and "+4" stitched on the back. That would have been a worthy farewell.


I quite agree with you about this one. Of course I can understand that no special things are made for only 20 cars. But for example the leather jackets would have been a nice emotional sign. And also nicer colours.
BTW the 61K GBP are perhaps a foretaste of what a CX Plus4 might cost.




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Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: tommog] #612659
16/01/20 09:35 AM
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Most of this parts they could get from Uncle Melvyn. And why not make some special parts for twenty high expensive cars? Hot-rod builders or custom bike builders do that for one vehicle.

Originally Posted by Heinz
BTW the 61K GBP are perhaps a foretaste of what a CX Plus4 might cost.


Have thought the same...

Last edited by Jens; 16/01/20 09:38 AM.

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Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: tommog] #612660
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I quite like the understated nature, and also the 20% increase in power. However, as stated, these will probably go into 'collections' and get wheeled out for the odd show or two, so most of the issues are moot.

Not sure I agree with the harbingers of doom about the marque. If you want a trad/classic there are hundreds out there on the second hand market (many with very low mileages). Love my old classic, especially due to the family connection but if I had sufficient funds (unlikely but I play the lottery) I'd have no issues with purchasing a CX platform vehicle.


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Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: tommog] #612662
16/01/20 09:54 AM
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I am of the opinion that there are some proper grumpy, miserable old toads on here.

So hard to please everyone but whatever Morgan do lately seems to displease most here.

I think the car is what it should be, given it a modern twist, maybe that’s the problem, most owners are too old to get it

And the price??? Well, again, what else is out there comparable?

If I hadn’t just bought my Plus 8 I’d be in there


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Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: tommog] #612664
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I was down in Melbourne so dropped into the dealer just to see if they had any cars or news about what they are doing. What I was told was this nice green car is the last car left and once that is gone we are closing the business, the new CX car will be just too expensive to be able to sell.

The specs on the car is a 1.6 4/4 in Jaguar Metallic Green, Green Mohair top, Walnut dash, Over riders, Stainless Steel wheels, Map pockets, Foot-well lights, Visors, Heated Seats, mesh Grille, Clock, Door stays and Trinket Tray for $124,309AUD. A very nice colour and good spec but I think a +4 110 model was about the same from what I could tell looking at the price list at the start of last year and you got more for your money.

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I did ask about the limited edition +4 and he said he isn't going to get any, this is the last one. I was leaving wondering if he was being truthful or not about not getting any of the 70 anniversary +4's but now I have seen it I expect he was not lying as it would not be easy to sell, I expect the price would be very high in AUD and I am certainly not a fan of the colour.

When I first read about a limited edition +4 to end the Trads I was expecting 70 cars and hoping for Brooklands green to match TOK as an option. Not that am in position to buy anyway.

Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: tommog] #612669
16/01/20 11:23 AM
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Morgan are edging away from bespoke, and edging upwards on cost.

I would imagine most buyers are old codgers, and at £61k, I for one want bespoke.

If these cars had been, say 2.5 Duratec, narrow bodied bespoke.......I would have found that package hard to resist.


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Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: DaveW] #612686
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Originally Posted by DaveW
Morgan are edging away from bespoke, and edging upwards on cost.

I would imagine most buyers are old codgers, and at £61k, I for one want bespoke.

If these cars had been, say 2.5 Duratec, narrow bodied bespoke.......I would have found that package hard to resist.


Dave, I suspect it would cost you less than swapping cars to take your existing Plus 4 to someone like Williams and have the Omex 2.5 Duratec fitted. The existing engine is not worth a lot second hand and if you were keen to keep the possibility of returning to original you could mothball the engine. The reason I suggest Williams is that I know they have done this at least a couple of times before for customers. I believe one such new car went to a customer in New Zealand.

Someone I spoke to who had this engine fitted told me that it makes the car a fabulous sports tourer with good power and torque but without the weight of the V6.


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Re: The end of the last real sportscar [Re: tommog] #612687
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To be honest, I may have been guilty of casting some shade on the company when they first introduced the Aero - in my opinion it had fallen out the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. Nothing like a 'proper' Morgan. However, they sold well, in time they fixed the fugly front end, and then temporarily sorted the fugly rear when they created a work of absolute beauty that is the Aeromax.

As I said above, looking forward to the next 110 years and seeing what they produce smile


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