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Life before health & Safety #613276
20/01/20 04:11 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnH7cw0ql1I

When I were a lad life were..err..simpler smile

Re: Life before health & Safety [Re: Luddite] #613280
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Fred was the best.

Here is another great memory before health and safety.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW3daihiY30


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Re: Life before health & Safety [Re: Luddite] #613339
21/01/20 06:15 AM
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A proper man. When men were men, not the soft lads we have growing up these days
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'Life is like a garden, dig it' *Joe Dirt farmer
Re: Life before health & Safety [Re: Bonesie] #613343
21/01/20 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bonesie
When men were men
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Dead. That's the word you were searching for. When men were dead.

Fred was a great character and a wonderful presenter, but when it came to sensible working practices he was possibly less worthy of praise. Has anyone considered that the reason his steeplejacking business managed to keep going was because his quotes came in under the competition? And could that possibly be because he was prepared to take ludicrous risks with his safety that simply wouldn't be contemplated today? All very well when you're only putting yourself at risk, but I remember seeing his first wife saying on one of the programmes that she hated the danger he put himself in. The poor lass, I certainly wouldn't subject my wife to such stress.

But it's all the fault of that pesky Health and Safety culture, stopping company owners from skimping on looking after their employees properly and keeping us all alive.

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Re: Life before health & Safety [Re: Luddite] #613360
21/01/20 11:33 AM
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An interesting spike in the early 80s, wonder what that was.

The most dangerous profession now is farming, the HSE are concerned.


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Re: Life before health & Safety [Re: Luddite] #613362
21/01/20 12:10 PM
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Sadly we have more than our fair share of fatalities in our area as not only do we have farming but also fishing which claims a lot of lives each year. Rather sadly most are put down to bad working practises so Fred is not an icon he was a chancer and very marmite I thought.


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Re: Life before health & Safety [Re: Luddite] #613366
21/01/20 12:29 PM
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Costock, South Nottinghamshire...
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Farming is a big problem. We keep our horses on a working farm and see practices on a daily basis that would make any H&S professional go pale. They have been lucky so far and show no signs of changing their ways.
Just three examples from the last 12 months:
- Broken guard on PTO shaft
- Working on the bowels of a baler without switching the tractor off
- Riding on the steps of a tele handler - one slip and then under the wheels
- Driving round the yard with a 1/2 ton bale of haulage on a tele handler set at a level which obscures the forward view


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Re: Life before health & Safety [Re: Luddite] #613375
21/01/20 01:12 PM
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The standard excuses is that "it is my farm and I'l do it my way".
The building industry used to be as bad, but because the employers were mostly large companies the HSE had something to educate, or if needed, prosecute.
Many smaller farms are not even Limited Companies and there is no money, other than the land assets. Also the NFU has real political clout within Government.


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Re: Life before health & Safety [Re: Peter J] #613376
21/01/20 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter J
The standard excuses is that "it is my farm and I'l do it my way".


That and “we don’t have time to do it any other way” - which to some extent I sympathise with as the youngest member of the family seems to work 80-100 hour weeks constantly (except during harvest when he works a lot more hours). I try to keep my nose out (we have been looking for alternative livery for a long time & cannot afford to offend) but can’t help wondering if modest investments in better methods would be time saving as well as safer.


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Re: Life before health & Safety [Re: Luddite] #613386
21/01/20 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Luddite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnH7cw0ql1I

When I were a lad life were..err..simpler smile


I was fortunate to spend a lot of time with Fred during my traction engine days. I sometimes appear on the tele with him when his visit to Strumpshaw Steam Museum is re run on the box. He was a great character and I got on with him quite well although sometimes we had a job understanding each other.


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