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Re: Crash!!!! [Re: Gambalunga] #615086
02/02/20 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gambalunga

Regarding the E-Pace I am starting to have some doubts as I have discovered that the luggage space is actually less in the E-Pace than it is in the XE and one of the incentives to change was the lack of luggage space in the XE- idea


I personally find the E-Pace a Little disappointing because as the Range Rover Evoque, they have a “classic” body and frame instead of a full aluminum monocoque. The result is that the E-Pace is not as roomy as expected and it weights a lot.

The reality pops up when you compare it with its big brother the F-Pace:
E-Pace D240 R-Dynamic weights 1926 kg
My F-Pace S with the V6 300hp weights 1959kg
Just 33 kg difference, but the F-Pace is gigantic and a real missile when kickin’ it down.

No need to go to the (IMHO) excessive 300hp of the V6, but with 240hp (same engine than the E-Pace) the F-Pace is a way better option if you can afford it. And not longer than your XE. Maybe larger, but not a huge difference in size.


Javier - Madrid, Spain - Commander of the Speedy Marmots Bomb Squadron
Re: Crash!!!! [Re: Marmota] #615087
02/02/20 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Marmota
[quote=Gambalunga]
Regarding the E-Pace I am starting to have some doubts as I have discovered that the luggage space is actually less in the E-Pace than it is in the XE and one of the incentives to change was the lack of luggage space in the XE- idea


I personally find the E-Pace a little disappointing because as the Range Rover Evoque, they have a “classic” body and frame instead of a full aluminum monocoque. The result is that the E-Pace is not as roomy as expected and it weights a lot.

The reality pops up when you compare it with its big brother the F-Pace:
E-Pace D240 R-Dynamic weights 1926 kg
My F-Pace S with the V6 300hp weights 1959kg
Just 33 kg difference, but the F-Pace is gigantic compared to the space inside the E-Pace.

No need to go to the (IMHO) excessive 300hp of the V6, but with 240hp (same engine than the E-Pace) the F-Pace is a way better option if you can afford it. And not longer than your XE. Maybe larger, but not a huge difference in external size. But the luggage space is huge.

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Re: Crash!!!! [Re: Gambalunga] #615094
02/02/20 06:31 PM
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I had an Evoque, (first series) and didn't get on with it, for a raft of reasons.
The XE is a great car, although not selling well.
If more space is needed the XF Sportbreak would be my choice.
But after playing with the configurator £61,000.
Hmm.


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Re: Crash!!!! [Re: Gambalunga] #615104
02/02/20 07:48 PM
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My observation on the E-Pace is that the family styling does not translate well to it. It looks dumpy and truncated. With the additional length the F-Pace looks more natural. The LR Evoque styling translates much better as does the new Discovery Sport (who are they kidding with that name?)

The F-Pace I drove with the 2L 240hp engine was quick enough but the V6 was so much smoother and more cultured. This remains my biggest beef with downsizing engines. 4-IL remain rougher and feel less cultured. A V8-6 or IL6 always runs more smoothly and feels more relaxing.


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Re: Crash!!!! [Re: Alistair] #615114
02/02/20 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Alistair

The F-Pace I drove with the 2L 240hp engine was quick enough but the V6 was so much smoother and more cultured. This remains my biggest beef with downsizing engines. 4-IL remain rougher and feel less cultured. A V8-6 or IL6 always runs more smoothly and feels more relaxing.


The V6 biturbo diesel is amazing to drive. I got it in my previous Jag (an XJ, in its 275hp and 600Nm version) and now in the F-Pace (in its new 300hp and 700Nm version). You drive it just caressing the throttle… If you do a serious kick-down, its a missile. shocked2

I would love to test the new Ingenium petrol IL6 with its 400hp! love

Last edited by Marmota; 02/02/20 08:24 PM.

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Re: Crash!!!! [Re: Gambalunga] #615135
03/02/20 12:50 AM
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"I would love to test the new Ingenium petrol IL6 with its 400hp!" happy3


Personally, that would be me begging for a "CRASH" woohoo


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Re: Crash!!!! [Re: Gambalunga] #623456
16/03/20 11:38 PM
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Up date.

The car has been repaired about a week and a half ago. €11,000 VAT included thanks very much. Just one small problem. The car is about 30kms away from here and I can't pick it up because of the travel restrictions.

Well I wouldn't be able to use it anyway swear

I plan to try and sell it privately when I get it back and then decide what to replace it with.


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Re: Crash!!!! [Re: Gambalunga] #623459
17/03/20 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Gambalunga
Up date.

The car has been repaired about a week and a half ago. €11,000 VAT included thanks very much. Just one small problem. The car is about 30kms away from here and I can't pick it up because of the travel restrictions.

Well I wouldn't be able to use it anyway swear

I plan to try and sell it privately when I get it back and then decide what to replace it with.



Just out of curiosity, what might be your reason/reasons for wanting to sell it Peter?
Of course assuming that the lower body and undercarriage repairs were done competently,
while also maintaining usual Jaguar high standards of fit and finish top side.
Thank you for the update.....stay well and safe!
cozychair


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Re: Crash!!!! [Re: Gambalunga] #623463
17/03/20 05:20 AM
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The Tesla Model Y looks an interesting car..... The Tesla network being a bit of a game changer too.


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Re: Crash!!!! [Re: Gambalunga] #623475
17/03/20 08:24 AM
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The car is often used when we go away and the luggage space is only just sufficient for 3 people and a little dog. Sometimes we have a couple of friends with us and the rear seat is to restricted for 3 people, particularly given that I need the seat well back. Even though I ordered the fold down back seats the fact that the car is not a lift back and the parcel shelf above the boot is fixed makes it difficult to load bulky objects.

I have more or less decided that a Discovery Sport or something similar would be better. I had actually decided I did not want a SUV or crossover type of vehicle but it seems that, for the use I have, I would be better off with something more spacious.


Peter

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