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Re: Morgan thefts [Re: NickCW] #616717
11/02/20 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NickCW
I have read recently of two successful and one unsuccessful attempt to steal some beloved Morgan's, all seemingly unrelated and in different locations.
Thankfully one was recovered but it got me thinking.. this is more than I have heard of in as many years, so is there a sudden demand or desire for the unscupulous to steal these cars now?

Has Morgan being in the limelight more gotten the interest of those who steal cars? I do hope not.. but I do admit it has gotten me thinking!

Hopefully they are just coindicdental in timing, but might be worth being a bit more vigilent than before..


Have they gotten caught for burglarising those cars?

Re: Morgan thefts [Re: NickCW] #616765
11/02/20 06:39 PM
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Burglarising?????
Blinking heck Howard...


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Re: Morgan thefts [Re: NickCW] #616781
11/02/20 07:29 PM
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If they thought it through, Morgans are rare and expensive. To try and sell a hot one will be tricky without being detected, and to strip one for parts? Nothing would fit another one easily, there's a limited market for rear axles, so you're left with the engine and gearbox, not set up for transverse installation.

You could easily notify all the dealers of a stolen car and the Morgan community are hawk eyed...…..

Obviously the crooks don't have much knowledge of the market, but I can't see how it's worth doing.


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Re: Morgan thefts [Re: Gambalunga] #617205
14/02/20 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Gambalunga
Probably some scroat who thought it would be easy to get an old car started to go for a joy ride.

No offence, Peter but could you call it stealing or taking and driving without the owners consent. I agree with your sentiments, however.


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Re: Morgan thefts [Re: NickCW] #617211
14/02/20 11:24 AM
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I`m with you Dave. There is no real market for stolen Mogs.


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Re: Morgan thefts [Re: NickCW] #617221
14/02/20 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BobtheTrain
Originally Posted by Gambalunga
Probably some scroat who thought it would be easy to get an old car started to go for a joy ride.

No offence, Peter but could you call it stealing or taking and driving without the owners consent. I agree with your sentiments, however.

No offence taken. Perhaps "joyride" is an outdated term but it certainly refers to stealing and taking a vehicle without the owner's consent. Often to be left parked somewhere when it runs out of petrol however, unfortunately, often burned to hide any traces or fingerprints. I had a motorcycle stolen many years ago that was eventually found just around the corner from a police station. No damage other than disconnected wiring. I had parked it outside a friends house and not used a steering lock.

The Wikipedia entry makes interesting reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyride_(crime)

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Joyriding refers to driving or riding in a stolen vehicle, most commonly a car, with no particular goal other than the pleasure or thrill of doing so. The term "Joy Riding" was coined by a New York judge in 1908.

Joyriders or other car thieves often gain access to a locked car with just a flathead screwdriver, although modern cars have systems to prevent a screwdriver from opening locks. Locks in cars manufactured before the early to mid-1990s were very weak and could be opened easily. The vehicle is started by either hot-wiring or breaking the ignition lock. Ignition systems were much less sophisticated before the early to mid-1990s and easier to bypass. The vehicle is often driven through rural areas or less busy residential areas to avoid police notice, dumped when it is exhausted of fuel or damaged, and then burnt out with petrol.[citation needed]

Common-law systems
Under English law and other common-law systems, joyriding is not considered to be theft because the intent to "permanently deprive" the vehicle's owner of the vehicle cannot be proven. Instead, joyriding constitutes a separate, statutorily established offense of "unauthorized use" or "taking without consent" (usually known by the acronym TWOC, or the slang terms "twoccing" or "twocking").


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Re: Morgan thefts [Re: NickCW] #617222
14/02/20 01:05 PM
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The beauty of the GDI is that the immobiliser is hard to deactivate even with a key...………..


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Re: Morgan thefts [Re: NickCW] #617273
14/02/20 06:05 PM
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Used to be TADA, or Taking And Driving Away which when translated into street speak, became Touching A Dogs Arse..


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Re: Morgan thefts [Re: NickCW] #617278
14/02/20 06:16 PM
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I remember TWOCKing - Taking without owners consent


Just time to burn a little more petrol before dinner.
Re: Morgan thefts [Re: DaveW] #617364
15/02/20 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveW
The beauty of the GDI is that the immobiliser is hard to deactivate even with a key...………..


I doubt they could identify a GDI somestick


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