Interesting Peter - I feel sure that's the main issue.

Some here will know I had a nasty accident in my boat a few years ago.... the accident was caused by my inexperience at the helm of an extremely powerful boat - entirely my fault. The throttle went from 'peaceful' to 'nuclear Armageddon' in about 3 inches of travel. I hadn't had a boat previously and basically bought the equivalent of a Lamborghini as my first entree into boating. What could possibly go wrong?! Thankfully it was only me that was injured. I sold the boat.

With cars I gradually moved up from a a lowly 3 series to a Ford GT - so I knew to be gentle after years of slowly increasing performance.

If a new buyer purchases any high performance car, it is hoped they will have had something quick previously and know that throttle response is instant.

As you say, the Aero 8's are pussycats that only growl when poked hard.

I thought I'd try to find performance curves for the engine Mercedes use in the AMG A35, this is a 2.0L twin scroll turbo, normal power output is 306 bhp, peak torque is 400mn at 3000 rpm.

The red lines are as standard, the blue a "Stage 1" re-map offered by an after market supplier. Tempting...

BUT the key point I wanted to make is that the torque curve shows a much more "traditional" shape, unlike the almost vertical one of the BMW. This makes the car easier to manage and the 4WD makes all the power more usable.

Take a look....

I can feel your wallet twitching from here!

Is it that obvious?

The local MB dealership that supplied the car is also the Brabus distributor for the south.
I've asked for pricing as Brabus do a similar package, approved by MB and without any impact on the warranty.

Some real temptation here...

https://www.brabus.com/en/tuning/overview/p/a-klasse/w-177/amg-a-35.html

The exhaust and spoiler are rather rasty....

I remember just that from my first test of a Roadster, the initial cars with the narrow footwell. I dont have long feet but I do have very wide ones ( G or H fitting shoe) so every time I applied the breake I also applies the accelerator. If that issue in a Plus 6 is combined with a BMW engine designed to develop torque lower down than a NA engine plus a light back end, then you can imagine what might happen.

Hi Howard, I don't think (with any modern car) certainly a BMW, you can now accelerate and brake at the same time, the electronic's "kick-in" so that only braking occurs.

I have tired with my current BMW.....obviously I am "assuming" the electronics are just transferred from BMW to Morgan, so this would not be possible??

I can 100% brake and accelerate with my Roadster...done it several times!!

Forget BHP - history is littered with high torque/low rpm cars being made available to the public with the same results pretty much every time.

Whilst I’ve not driven the P6 - there will be additional factors like - throttle butterfly speed, with throttle by wire, throttle butterfly speed in many cases is not matching the peddle (ie. closing slower in comfort mode). Gearbox programming for auto’s, the propensity to drop a cog or rev-hang in gear.... even with throttle peddle off I’ve been in other cars where they will actually speed up not slow down.

That’s before you get to the mechanical grip of tyres and suspension set-up.

As for Aero’s....... having tracked my S1.... it’s considerably better on a track pushed hard than on the road. What let’s it down is the Engine and Gearbox. The engine runs out of puff and does not have enough revs to play with and the gearbox is designed for a heavy saloon.

I’ve driven the plus-6 a number of times now and each time I get out I am more and more impressed and confident with its ability.

The issue is simple, the turbo unit boosts relatively early so you are getting pretty much max torque in an instant as opposed to torque building lineally in the NA units. That instant torque and low gear ratios of the 8 speed box, plus probably not the best tyre combo, easily over powers the rears giving wheel spin. With no traction control or a LSD the car quickly becomes a handful. The immediate reaction is to jump off the accelerator which then can make the car snatch and throw you in the opposite direction which is what I think has happened to some of those cars. The brave and more experienced keep the foot in and control the slide which is entirely possible as it’s a well sorted chassis.

As someone says above, it’s a car that’s needs respect but as you get to know the car it is a beauty and exhilarating not to engage with.

A plus 6 isn't on your list of cars below your post so you don't own one ? Sounds like you are quite keen to drive them though ? Are you thinking of getting one ? From your comment about the drive experience it does sound a bit of a crazy torque laden car , one wonders how owners are coping with this ?

Well if they have parted with their own money my guess is that they will learn not to ram the loud pedal into the fresh carpet hard in one go. Self preservation of the wallet has always worked well for me.
The power curves shown are with an open throttle so it does not HAVE to be that brutal in power on characteristic does it? Feed the pedal in smoothly and consider the usual aspects?

Tyre temp
Road temp and slime/diesel/rain coating
Drift angle
Room and impact absorbency of item in direct path of sideways travel!
Cost of insurance premium and NCB...

I guess we are all a bit over-coddled by the modern cars and 4WD experience so when something fruity does appear it comes as a bit of a shock.

Maybe Morgan could offer a one day circuit driving course to let new owners experience the sticky bit of the edges up front prior to handing the car over.
I always think you learn a lot about a car by overstepping the mark and driving badly so that when you then drive normally you are at least a little ready for the slime covered road.
It would be good for Morgan to include this a bit like AMG does for the first owner of one of it's nutter-wagons.