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Re: P4 with flash. verdict [Re: meabh] #625225
23/03/20 03:35 PM
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I have a gdi plus4 and have had the ECU remapped by Williams Morgan -- fantastic result -- I had wanted to do it as I was told it would improve the MPG -- well... it did improve the MPG - from average33 to average 40 BUT .. it also gave a big improvement in grunt from about 2500revs --I do NOT have a fancy manifold, just the standard one -- Best value upgrade ever for the Mog!


Robbie
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Re: P4 with flash. verdict [Re: meabh] #625226
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I was always told I would have to have a fancy manifold for a reflash / chip on a GDI. Is this a Morgan modification or one they have acquired from elsewhere?

Was it expensive if it’s not too rude to ask?

Re: P4 with flash. verdict [Re: meabh] #625228
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The manifold & cat is an Aero Racing part. Originally sold as a full system, you might be able to buy the manifold & cat. But you won't get the twin tailpipe.

The whole system comes in around £2k

Librands also do a manifold & cat.


DaveW
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Re: P4 with flash. verdict [Re: Kevcaster] #625250
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Originally Posted by Kevcaster
I have read this and other threads on the subject and am still not sure on the advice. I have a Duratec Plus 4 and am attracted to the idea of a re-map but do not have the fancy manifolds, is it worthwhile going ahead.


My plus 4 Duratec has a Williams manifold, exhaust and remap. I had occasion to put it on a rolling road (emissions issue) and power had increased to 155 at flywheel and torque to 148@4800rpm.

You certainly won't get the results with a Duratec that you will with the GDI.


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Re: P4 with flash. verdict [Re: meabh] #625307
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I believe it is the club sport map, Hawki— cost circa £300
Cheers!


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Re: P4 with flash. verdict [Re: meabh] #625465
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Gary buy the +6 in December you know it makes sense.
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Re: P4 with flash. verdict [Re: meabh] #625495
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Good logic.

Re: P4 with flash. verdict [Re: meabh] #625515
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But what does Head Office say?


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Re: P4 with flash. verdict [Re: Gordon D] #625650
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Originally Posted by Gordon D
Originally Posted by Kevcaster
I have read this and other threads on the subject and am still not sure on the advice. I have a Duratec Plus 4 and am attracted to the idea of a re-map but do not have the fancy manifolds, is it worthwhile going ahead.


My plus 4 Duratec has a Williams manifold, exhaust and remap. I had occasion to put it on a rolling road (emissions issue) and power had increased to 155 at flywheel and torque to 148@4800rpm.

You certainly won't get the results with a Duratec that you will with the GDI.

I had emissions issues with the Aero Racing manifold and cat (same manifold and cat as the Plus 4 SS) fitted to my car at the factory. I resolved the problem by fitting individual throttle bodies and a Omex ECU so that I could do my own tuning. How's that for logic laugh


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Re: P4 with flash. verdict [Re: meabh] #625743
25/03/20 01:19 PM
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I was wondering how / whether these mods affect the stated European emissions ratings for the standard engines. This is becoming a issue for using the car in some cities.


Tom
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