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Ball joints upper and lower #628550
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Hello, i need to replace the ball joints on my 2012 and ordered the MK1 pre -84 as everyone said its the right one. but i just received them and the taper are to small.
The smallest part is approx 14 mm on the one i have and the one i received are approx 1 mm smaller 13 mm It looks for me that this one have the 84 and newer withe the bigger taper... Any one that knows if Morgan used different a-arms on the M3W and therefore it could be different sizes? its the stock a-arms and all as it was delivered from the factory.

Re: Ball joints upper and lower [Re: Custom m3w] #628565
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I checked mine and they are 14mm at the top of the taper the ones I used were Mini Metro pre 1984 Quinton Hazell part no QSJ1059S


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Re: Ball joints upper and lower [Re: Custom m3w] #628571
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I have just had a measure of a "new" old stock ball joint that I have as a spare, also QSJ1059S and that is 14mm at the top of the taper. Your problem is with the ball joints not the A arms. Have a check of the other joints that are not worn for lubricating grease inside the boot as they are usually dry and need some adding. New boots are available if they are starting to split.

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Thanks, OK. so i ordered correct but the parts i got is smaller and that should means i got wrong parts. (84 and later are bigger what i found out but is there then 3 sizes... the one i got is 13mm. should be 14mm and the 84 and later are bigger (should be interesting to know how big they are....)

Re: Ball joints upper and lower [Re: Custom m3w] #628577
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They was not that bad but the strange thing was that it was two different brands on it from the factory and three of them was some bad china with bad rubber boots that was cracked, dry and rusty and one was with real rubber boot and totally a much better quality.(not the plastic/rubber they use in china....) I did a full renovation of the spindles and also corrected the bump steer that was on this earlier version....
I contacted the supplier and they will look into this. fact is i ordered the right number but received some with 13 mm taper. I wounder what i got....its state the correct number on the boxes...

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Re: Ball joints upper and lower [Re: Custom m3w] #628977
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After reading the threads on ball joints decided to get some so could possibly replace while we are in lockdown.
H3nri is coming up to 8 years old with 30,000km on clock.
Actually can't see anything wrong with existing but good to investigate

Found an online source in NZ and got them today. Ordered yesterday!

Seems i have same issue as here in that the end of taper is 13mm

Labelled as mini metro up to 84. Code GSJ 268. See pics

Any ideas on what might be correct part description? Ie 84 on?

Also got a couple of tie rod ends as gaiters are ruptured

Any thoughts guys?

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Have looked at qinton Hazell online catalog
Seems that qsj 1059s should be 13mm ? See pic

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Is comparable to unipart Gsj268..??

Confused i am , more than usual ?

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That is confusing this is the packaging mine came in and they were the correct items
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Re: Ball joints upper and lower [Re: Custom m3w] #629030
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They must be interchangeable. The QH details say that the QSJ1059S is comparable to a GSJ268. I have a QSJ1059S in an original QH box and it is certainly 14mm at the top of the taper, although their own spec says 13mm. As long as the taper seats fully and the nut clamps the joint fully without bottoming out, it should be OK.

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