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Aero door seals #629762
11/04/20 12:02 PM
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While the aero is in quarantine decided to do some tidying up jobs and get the carcoon down after the winter etc. While cleaning the door panels I noticed the door seal has started coming apart in places and is generally not in great condition. I have some 10mm rubber D strip which I purchased but this is a bit chunkier than the current seal which might be better as the wind currently freezes my right leg every time I take it out!

Has anyone replaced these with larger D seals before and if so were there any issues?

Re: Aero door seals [Re: KevinMcR] #629776
11/04/20 12:48 PM
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- can't offer much in the way of advice I'm afraid Kevin but ,like you, I replaced the seals on both my Aero S1 doors.

The frozen right leg sounds very familiar too swear

I used black rubber D strip too and put some on the doors and some smaller strips on the the front ,vertical door frames (the main car bodywork - if that makes sense!)

It is just a process of trial and error 'till you get a good seal - that doesn't affect the door closing properly.The new seal will compress after a while so don't be too afraid of making it slightly 'tight'.

The only other issue I recall is that the adhesive on some of the strip is poor.When you have the location/thickness confirmed ,I then used a little additional adhesive in places.

A good contact adhesive is 'instant' but 'Sikaflex' or 'Tiger Seal' is excellent if you can support the strip 'till it sets....

Good luck thumbs

James


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Re: Aero door seals [Re: KevinMcR] #629796
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Cheers James. Will go research some glue as well! Can't wait to have a warm right leg! Was the D seal you used larger than the old seal to get a better fit?

Re: Aero door seals [Re: KevinMcR] #629826
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Kevin - yes; go big or go home innocent

Seriously, given the icy blast I decided I needed bigger, thicker sealing strip......

James


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Re: Aero door seals [Re: KevinMcR] #629839
11/04/20 05:18 PM
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Thanks for that. Will start replacing them as soon as finished cleaning and conditioning the leather and the glue arrives. The list seems to grow by the day!

Re: Aero door seals [Re: KevinMcR] #630359
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Hi

Is this something you could also do with the window seals as mine seem to be pinched up by where the window and quarter light meet and they leak i have a series 2 anyone have any ideas?

Re: Aero door seals [Re: KevinMcR] #630378
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By window seals do you mean the d gasket that runs from the top of the window upright to the bottom of the front door post as in this image?

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Re: Aero door seals [Re: KevinMcR] #630439
14/04/20 06:18 PM
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WPS, I have a series 2 so if you want to do some side by side photos then feel free to send me a PM and we can exchange photos etc.


I notice you are new and only have 9 posts so if you look where my ID is in the left column you can click on my name and it will take you to a menu where you can "send a PM". Best not to put emails and telephone numbers in open forums.


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Re: Aero door seals [Re: KevinMcR] #630442
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Oh - yes they leak! They all do that sir, the good news is that you can improve them quite easily.

In all seriousness one of the quickest ways of improving things are to replace the roof clamps (£50 each?) which hold it closed (roof to windscreen corners). If these feel floppy then the springs are gone and they don't keep tension. They should have a goof firm snap as they close. The outer rubbers bolted to the windscreen frame at either end are also quite cheap to replace and make a difference. I would start with those.

Other issues to watch for are
1. The leading edge of the door is not flush and so in the rain water comes in along the front edge of the door and down around the base. It then pools in the back end of the beam just inside the door (under the doorlock) causing the leather to pucker just in front of the rear wheel arch.
2. As the door hinges age the pin holding them together can wear. If you feel a pronounced clunk as you open the door quite wide and also as you close it then this can be a sign it is wearing. Best sorted before it fails as it costs less. Requires factory work in most cases as you need to form a new Ash frame.
3. The windscreen frame is only rubbered on the top and bottom. The sides do not have a gasket which is very odd according to the man at dodgy-windscreens-r-us near me. This can lead to water coming in around the bottom corners/edge of the windscreen. It will show as the varnish blooming on the dash top wood bar. It gets in behind the instrument panel and can cause the electrics to go a bit odd. This will often shows as the mile display acting funny with figures being dim or changing when damp. Fix it quick panels and electrics are expensive.

Hope this helps.


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Re: Aero door seals [Re: KevinMcR] #630520
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Given that the Midlands has rain on average 15 days a month I have always found it a puzzle that more effort is not made to make Morgans rain resistant. I suppose the top-down in all conditions philosophy must come from the realisation that you are not going to keep the water out so you might as well pretend you enjoy it hide

I am very pleased that our Plus 4 is excellent in this respect. The very few places where a drop of water came in were easily resolved. Two pads of neoprene (thank you Dave) on top of the windscreen pillars, and neoprene gaskets around the ECU box because water was getting under the box and passing the main electrical cable grommet. That was about all that was needed.


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