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Full Respray - where/costs? #632070
22/04/20 10:46 AM
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I am toying with the idea of a bare metal respray on my Aero.
With the installation of my new hardtop (once lockdown has been lifted), and the need to repaint both front wings and the rear valance to combat the small corrosion around the rivets and the odd chips/marks it has gotten to the point whereby I feel a full respray may be the best option.

In lieu of this where would you go?

I find it very hard to trust any big commercial bodyshops espicially with something as unique and complicated as an Aero, and although I found a local independant who worked for Aston for many years he appears to have stopped taking new work now (he did it purely from an enjoyment point of view). So I am left thinking my options are quite limited, either a Morgan dealer or the Morgan factory themselves?

In an ideal world I would go to my local dealer, but they don't have a bodyshop so I am leaning towards the factory.
Does anyone have any experience of this, quality/cost wise etc?

I haven't seen or heard of anyone who has taken a car for restoration work at the factory, so curious to know what to expect and so on.

Thanks all - plenty to ponder during this lockdown!


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Re: Full Respray - where/costs? [Re: NickCW] #632109
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These are two companies I would recommend in South Bucks
https://www.templarandwildeclassics.co.uk
http://www.michaelhibberd.co.uk/classic.asp


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Re: Full Respray - where/costs? [Re: NickCW] #632119
22/04/20 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NickCW
I am toying with the idea of a bare metal respray on my Aero.
With the installation of my new hardtop (once lockdown has been lifted), and the need to repaint both front wings and the rear valance to combat the small corrosion around the rivets and the odd chips/marks it has gotten to the point whereby I feel a full respray may be the best option.

In lieu of this where would you go?

I find it very hard to trust any big commercial bodyshops espicially with something as unique and complicated as an Aero, and although I found a local independant who worked for Aston for many years he appears to have stopped taking new work now (he did it purely from an enjoyment point of view). So I am left thinking my options are quite limited, either a Morgan dealer or the Morgan factory themselves?

In an ideal world I would go to my local dealer, but they don't have a bodyshop so I am leaning towards the factory.
Does anyone have any experience of this, quality/cost wise etc?

I haven't seen or heard of anyone who has taken a car for restoration work at the factory, so curious to know what to expect and so on.

Thanks all - plenty to ponder during this lockdown!



Hi Nick - I would pick a reputable Bodyshop in your area?

Do some research via car enthusiasts - car club members etc. pick a couple and then 100% get them to show you there premises and the quality of work they are producing.

A good quality back to bones respray will not be cheap!

The last one I saw in early March of this year - in one of the Bodyshops I visit, was a BMW M4 that had been vandal damaged (just scratches on 90% of the panels) - that was circa £6k, for a full windows out repaint.

This is only a ball park figure, however, paintwork is pretty specialised and as such is very labour intensive.

Mark


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Re: Full Respray - where/costs? [Re: NickCW] #632126
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Krazy Horse use Baker Bodycraft so are well versed with Morgans. I can vouch for their excellent work, superior in corrosion resistance to Morgan's own paintwork. They have shops in Bury St.Edmunds and Mildenhall.


Richard

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Re: Full Respray - where/costs? [Re: NickCW] #632167
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I thought about the same for the S2 due to corrosion around the headlamps and a couple of other places.

I was given guidance by a local car restorer plus some stuff I have picked up.

1. Make certain they are used to working aluminium and double clean prior to spray.
2. Make a long exhaustive list of the grommets, trim parts that will be replaced and ensure you can get them in advance, Morgan parts are not as easy to come by.
3. Some S2 parts (rubber/plastic rings around indicators on front) can be added to reduce contact.
4. Do not over tighten the headlamps as it de-laminates the glass from the back reflector when mounting and allows them lose quality.
5. Check the colour on a panel prior to sanding down, wrong codes have been known.

HTH


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Re: Full Respray - where/costs? [Re: NickCW] #632192
22/04/20 05:24 PM
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My B i L works for a company rebuilding early DB Astons and they use these guys who are based very near to Twickenham stadium. They are used to working with Aluminium.

Southern Classics


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Re: Full Respray - where/costs? [Re: NickCW] #632953
25/04/20 08:39 PM
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Thanks for the recommendations all, I wasn't to keen on using a local bodyshop as these cars are so fiddly - much rather someone Morgan familiar as such!
Prices seem to be around what I expected so that is good.

Has anyone actually used the factory for restoration? The finish on new cars is amazing, but some do seem to suffer with warranty woes.

Interesting to know who Krazy Horse use, might be worth a look next time I am down there.


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Re: Full Respray - where/costs? [Re: NickCW] #633011
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Have a look at this link just above Nick

I think using MMC for paintwork would be a very bad move given warranty issues I've had on two new cars. This apart from the likely extra cost!


Richard

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Re: Full Respray - where/costs? [Re: NickCW] #633014
26/04/20 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by NickCW
Has anyone actually used the factory for restoration? The finish on new cars is amazing, but some do seem to suffer with warranty woes.

I used someone who worked at the factory to rebuild and respray mine, and nearly twenty years later it's still looking good.


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Re: Full Respray - where/costs? [Re: NickCW] #633059
26/04/20 12:25 PM
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Nick
You are quite right to be concerned about body shops. I have been rebuilding my MOG for coming up to a year and have spent a small fortune so far. But the real expense will come in the painting of the car. I have looked into this and the company I will be using is called Indygo Refinishing Ltd on 01985 841 613. Tim Ayres uses this company. When I spoke to the owner he gets the car and takes the MOG apart. He will put a photograph album together for you. I have also seen a couple of cars that he has done. First class jobs.


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