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Re: Boot lock project [Re: Marmota] #637059
12/05/20 08:28 PM
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I considered this soon after I got my M3W in 2013. In the years since, touring around Europe and leaving the car overnight in a number of places. I don't know of anyone who has had anything stolen from the boot. I think most people would assume the boot is locked, if they realised it was there. I have never had anyone go in the boot, or in the car if it has a tonneau cover fitted. I have had people sit in the car for photos when I have not been there but that is all, maybe I have been lucky? Drilling the hole in the lid has been the big thing against fitting a lock. If you do it I would be interested in what you used and how the job went.

Re: Boot lock project [Re: 3Gs] #637064
12/05/20 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 3Gs
I previously thought about using the same type of lock in the same centered position...

But then I thought if it's locked in the center, and the Baddie has a hold of a leather side strap, how much strength would it take to just bend the aluminum up to see what's underneath?

I came to the conclusion that I'd rather loose some stuff than have to buy a new back lid.


There is a reinforcement arc in the center of the lid, as shown in the picture. Bending the lid enough to see what's inside demands a huge amount of force.


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Re: Boot lock project [Re: planenut] #637066
12/05/20 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by planenut

I considered this soon after I got my M3W in 2013. In the years since, touring around Europe and leaving the car overnight in a number of places. I don't know of anyone who has had anything stolen from the boot. I think most people would assume the boot is locked, if they realised it was there. I have never had anyone go in the boot, or in the car if it has a tonneau cover fitted. I have had people sit in the car for photos when I have not been there but that is all, maybe I have been lucky? Drilling the hole in the lid has been the big thing against fitting a lock. If you do it I would be interested in what you used and how the job went.



My M3W is brand new and I still had no occasion to travel with it. frown .

Maybe I'm paranoid? stars but the idea of having a boot without any safety makes me nervous pale

It's just a project. Maybe I'll chill out and forget about it hippy Might be the quarantine that's making me overthinking. tongue2


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Re: Boot lock project [Re: Marmota] #637087
12/05/20 09:51 PM
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What would be ideal is to find a type of locking zsus fastener to replace whats there

Re: Boot lock project [Re: Marmota] #637098
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Just a thought about the locking dzus fasteners. Why not replace the existing fasteners with the fasteners from the bonnet of a TR3? Those dzus require a tool with a square end to open, rather than simply twisting by hand. How many potential thieves will be carrying a T-Handle dzus tool, or even know what it was if it was laying on the seat?

Re: Boot lock project [Re: Marmota] #637100
12/05/20 11:19 PM
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Have you considered placing a lock on both sides, maybe more secure. I don't have a M3w, but I often leave my Mog unlocked and no tonneau cover, never had any issues, plenty of admires and photo's taken only.

Re: Boot lock project [Re: Marmota] #637101
13/05/20 12:03 AM
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1. If you are travelling you are not likely to be using your rear rack? WIth that fitted they aren't getting into the boot (but then neither are you, without unfixing it!)...
2. I always felt the real risk is accessing the boot under the gaze of the public eg parking in a busy street. Anyone watching can observe (a) its there and (b) how you get in. Two possible answers are:
i) A false lock to deter the curious light-fingered brigade
ii) A locking strap. OK not sure where that goes - maybe around the car?

Thinking about the latter idea... the petrol cap cover (if I recall) springs foward. If it was slightly longer and overlapped the boot, then it would act as a "lock",..?


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Re: Boot lock project [Re: Marmota] #637107
13/05/20 05:55 AM
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If these fit they would look nice, and they are lockable

https://www.aerocatch.com/product/125-4100-above-panel-locking-xtreme/

Last edited by Uther; 13/05/20 11:45 AM.

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Re: Boot lock project [Re: Marmota] #637125
13/05/20 08:09 AM
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Hi Javier,
Whilst lockdown is in place and I now have my Bleazey modded engine back in I have been whiling away the hours looking for ways to fit locks front and back. Lockable Dzus Fasteners would be ideal but cannot find any I also looked at the lock you contemplated for the boot but the centre top is not a good place to fit it.
You are correct that on our trip to Norway a couple of years ago, I left the M3W tool kit, a new small tyre compressor and a couple of other spares in the boot overnight. I did not miss them till we got home ( we had so much other stuff with us we were well packed up)
so do not know which part of the journey home they were taken from the boot. All tools etc are now under the front area and I continue to search for a good solution.
I am very uneasy with the high value of the spares alone I carry and really want a means to secure things front and back.
Ian


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Re: Boot lock project [Re: linklaw] #637155
13/05/20 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by linklaw
Just a thought about the locking dzus fasteners. Why not replace the existing fasteners with the fasteners from the bonnet of a TR3? Those dzus require a tool with a square end to open, rather than simply twisting by hand. How many potential thieves will be carrying a T-Handle dzus tool, or even know what it was if it was laying on the seat?


Rimmer Bros do the dzus fastener that require a tool with a square end to open and the T key;

https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-552971

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