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Rear lap belts #640626
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I'm thinking of putting a couple of lap belts into the back of my 4 seater for the very occasional times I may take rear passengers and to strap a dog harness to when we ulitmately get a couple of rescues.

Anyone got any advice or photos of how they've been installed? Looking at early style with a bench rear seat.

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TBM .... on mine they bolt through the rear seat base frame using the three holes marked by the orange dots .....both belts share the middle mounting bolt


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Great, thank you.

Is that bar welded in? It doesn't exist on mine. Should be very easy to replicate.

Could you give me the dimensions of the angle iron if possible? Looks about 25mm x 25mm x 2 or 3mm

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Phil ....on mine the rear seat base is a welded up rectangle of angle iron that bolts through the inner ply arches either side (with a pressed steel panel that drops in to fill the centre for the seat squab to sit on) .... Acts as a nice stabiliser for the rear of the tub (hence I haven't removed it to pretty it up yet)

The angle is ..

32x32x5 mm

Though I suspect it's actually an old imperial size but I don't have a caliper that reads in pounds, shillings and pence smile


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Let me know if need more pics.

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Cheers.

On mine I just have the front and sides of the frame, and then the pressed steel plate sat on the tank. There were three 'clips' on top of the tank (you can just see one of them in front of the fuel filler hose) that the pressed steel plate slotted into. I flattened them so I could fit my wooden luggage board things.

I reckon I could easily fit a chunk of angle just in front of the small uprights where the rear seat back slots into (you can just make it out on the top of the photo, to the right of the filler).

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Phil ... welding is a problem with the inner arch right there but if you had a triangular plate at each end so you could use three decent tensile bolts each side then that would be as strong as the couple of inches of weld. The end result would be better than the current fresh air belts by a long way .

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Originally Posted by TBM
Cheers.

On mine I just have the front and sides of the frame, and then the pressed steel plate sat on the tank. There were three 'clips' on top of the tank (you can just see one of them in front of the fuel filler hose) that the pressed steel plate slotted into. I flattened them so I could fit my wooden luggage board things.

I reckon I could easily fit a chunk of angle just in front of the small uprights where the rear seat back slots into (you can just make it out on the top of the photo, to the right of the filler).

[Linked Image]


That explains why you can lift the tank out through the top then.... innocent


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Originally Posted by SimonH


That explains why you can lift the tank out through the top then.... innocent


Is my set up fairly unique? With the clips on the tank it all seems fairly unmolested.


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Just checked the photos Mike Pullen sent me of his rear conversion on his 1971 (I think) 4seater and his doesn't have the crossbar either. Must have been a later addition post 1972.


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Originally Posted by Image
Phil ... welding is a problem with the inner arch right there but if you had a triangular plate at each end so you could use three decent tensile bolts each side then that would be as strong as the couple of inches of weld. The end result would be better than the current fresh air belts by a long way .

K


Good plan. As you say, anything is better than nothing!

Just need to sort out a postion. Had a look last night and the seat back bows forward to much to stick a bar directly infront of the metal uprights. Will have to come forward a bit. You can see the uprights better in this pic of Mike's - I've ringed them. You can also see the little tank clips - he hasn't flattened his. Womder with the went for the change.

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IIRC I think Mike also fitting a bar and lapbelts - I'll see if he's got any photos of his install.


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