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Re: Another Plus Six bites the dust! [Re: rid967] #647685
30/06/20 06:59 PM
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Well interestingly I asked Headley what the cost increase would be for a new plus four or a BMW +8.
They would insure the plus four but not the +8.


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Re: Another Plus Six bites the dust! [Re: rid967] #647688
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Peter that’s a huge number of plus 6 written off considering the low volumes and short time they have been on the road. T must be a real worry for Morgan, this could seriously impact their image at a time when they are trying to enter new markets.

Re: Another Plus Six bites the dust! [Re: rid967] #647697
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Thats surprising John. My premiums on the Aero have been surprisingly modest over the years.


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Re: Another Plus Six bites the dust! [Re: rid967] #647701
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Yep I found odd but when I bought the Roadster Peter Best whom I had used for years wanted £750. Headley was £250.


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Re: Another Plus Six bites the dust! [Re: Peter J] #647705
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Originally Posted by Peter J
According to information from a number of sources, more than 20 of the PlusSix models have been written off.

In almost every case it is unexpected power delivery caused by an insensitive right foot amplifying miscommunication between engine and gearbox management systems that causes a sudden exchange of ends and an unexpected journey.
In this case it looks as if a lamp post or similar hit the car.
The car has to be driven with great care and sensitivity, as does every super-car. They can all bite the inexperienced.

And yes, the dash is mdf, either painted body colour or veneered.

Such a shame....


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Re: Another Plus Six bites the dust! [Re: rid967] #647707
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So how many +6s have been produced, so we can estimate the % of write offs?
Is the 20 world wide or UK number?
Can we conclude the +6 should come wt driver training?


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Re: Another Plus Six bites the dust! [Re: rid967] #647723
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It is a car that would be out of the question for me. I have nerve damage as the result of a serious accident in 1995 and it affects the fine movement control of my right foot. So much power on a light car with not driver aids would be a deadly combination for me. I would even be worried about driving a new PlusFour. Probably best for me to stick with a conventionally aspirated engine that has predictable and linear power delivery.. A 1.5 litre 3 cylinder version may be better but even so the turbo boost effect which tends to come on suddenly may still be a problem.


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Re: Another Plus Six bites the dust! [Re: rid967] #647748
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Headley quoted me £2,600 just for the 4.8 plus 8 a few weeks ago. Renewal this year with Gott and Wynn was less than 1k for five Morgans and over £100 less than last year!


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Re: Another Plus Six bites the dust! [Re: Peter J] #647761
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Originally Posted by Peter J
According to information from a number of sources, more than 20 of the PlusSix models have been written off.

In almost every case it is unexpected power delivery caused by an insensitive right foot amplifying miscommunication between engine and gearbox management systems that causes a sudden exchange of ends and an unexpected journey.
In this case it looks as if a lamp post or similar hit the car.
The car has to be driven with great care and sensitivity, as does every super-car. They can all bite the inexperienced.

And yes, the dash is mdf, either painted body colour or veneered.


I totally understand this. Having owned several Jaguar R-models, Bentleys and an Aston Martin I have never been in a car that I thought had too much power - until I met the Plus Six. That is actually the main reason I went for the Plus Four, the Plus Six has sooo much power combined with unpredictable turbo lag and an automatic that, unless you drive it in manual mode, never let you feel that you are actually in control. It is probably just my skills that are inadequate, but that is to some extent the crowd that Morgan is catering to with the Plus Six. :-)

Re: Another Plus Six bites the dust! [Re: rid967] #647768
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Moggie, that is a very understandable and serious statement. Especially when I consider which cars you mention as ok and not too strong compared to the Plus 6.


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