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Painting order #647980
02/07/20 08:22 AM
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This being my first wood-frame car I thought I'd consult the assembled wisdom.

Before very much longer I will have completely run out of diversionary jobs to keep me from repairing the body panels ( even a bout of tree felling and hard-covering and recomissioning Mrs Image's abandoned polytunnel haven't helped noticeably) ..... that in itself shouldn't be too long a job.

When it comes to painting, my intention is to prime everything then topcoat paint the insides of the panels .....my query is : should I topcoat paint the outside of the panels and then fix them to the frame (with minor touch up for any scuffing round the fixings) ..... or should I fix the internally painted panels to the frame and then mask up and finish paint the outsides in situ ?

Your thoughts would he much appreciated

K

Re: Painting order [Re: Image] #647981
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As far as the tub goes, paint the exterior of the panels once they are fitted to the wood frame, all the other parts, wings, cowl, bonnet etc. paint before assembly onto the car.

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Re: Painting order [Re: Image] #647989
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Make sure you treat the wood. MMC pressure treat their frames.
I also treat the plywood & anything else I can reach with teak oil every few years.


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Re: Painting order [Re: Image] #647994
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In spite of being new to Morgans I have picked up enough of the lore not to paint the wings in-situ as the factory did in the olden days .... though when removing the rear wings I was surprised to find that, although they were a bit crispy in places round the outer edges, the bare metal where it bolted in under the wooden wheel arch was still bright and good! ( though covered in an amazingly sticky goo that appeared to be made out of refined rhinoceros snot or the blubber of some long-extinct species of whale).

Wood frame has been cuprinoled to within an inch of it life then satin black painted ... it will be bolted into place in the next couple of days when I've finished ferreting about under the bulkhead installing the wiring loom and stuff (awkward, but less awkward than with the frame in the way)

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Sounds like you are enjoying yourself.


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Re: Painting order [Re: Image] #648000
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When I rebuilt my 4/4 I epoxy coated all the wood with marine epoxy and it is as good as new 25 years on. Also I painted the panelled tub before fitting to the chassis, as it easier to manage.

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Re: Painting order [Re: John V6] #648001
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Originally Posted by John V6
Make sure you treat the wood. MMC pressure treat their frames.
I also treat the plywood & anything else I can reach with teak oil every few years.

Good move on the teak oil.
Ash frames are dipped for a time though John, not pressure treated (yet?). smile


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Re: Painting order [Re: Graham, G4FUJ] #648004
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Originally Posted by Graham, G4FUJ
Ash frames are dipped for a time though John, not pressure treated (yet?). smile


I've mentioned before a trip round the factory with Grandad in the mid 80's where they proudly unveiled the new innovative dip tank to him! If I remember correctly, a big metal tank in a shed wth a chain hoist smile


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Re: Painting order [Re: TBM] #648005
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Originally Posted by TBM
Originally Posted by Graham, G4FUJ
Ash frames are dipped for a time though John, not pressure treated (yet?). smile


I've mentioned before a trip round the factory with Grandad in the mid 80's where they proudly unveiled the new innovative dip tank to him! If I remember correctly, a big metal tank in a shed wth a chain hoist smile

Unless things have changed in the last three months it is still the same Phil smile


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Re: Painting order [Re: Graham, G4FUJ] #648007
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Originally Posted by Graham, G4FUJ
Originally Posted by TBM
Originally Posted by Graham, G4FUJ
Ash frames are dipped for a time though John, not pressure treated (yet?). smile


I've mentioned before a trip round the factory with Grandad in the mid 80's where they proudly unveiled the new innovative dip tank to him! If I remember correctly, a big metal tank in a shed wth a chain hoist smile

Unless things have changed in the last three months it is still the same Phil smile


If it ain't broke....... smile smile


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