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Panhard Conundrum #648451
03/07/20 08:11 PM
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Chester, UK
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My Pahard rod kit arrived today so I thought I'd have a look how it fits. Read everything I could find and think I have the gist of how goes on but one mystery remains.

94 plus 8 has the fuel pump mounted onto a sheet metal plate infront of the fuel tank and under the OS spring. Totally obscures the OS Panhard rod mounting and spring attachment. And it will not go back on if I fit the Panhard rod as I think it should fit.

Has anyone solved this problem?

My current thinking is I could shorten the plate and remount it by drilling into the Panhard rod cross brace and using rivnuts. The plate will most certainly not go back on with the cross brace installed as there is a welded web preventing it relocating as it came off.

Thanks


94 plus 8 in Westminster Green - I think!
Re: Panhard Conundrum [Re: Grumpy2] #648465
03/07/20 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumpy2
My Pahard rod kit arrived today so I thought I'd have a look how it fits. Read everything I could find and think I have the gist of how goes on but one mystery remains.

94 plus 8 has the fuel pump mounted onto a sheet metal plate infront of the fuel tank and under the OS spring. Totally obscures the OS Panhard rod mounting and spring attachment. And it will not go back on if I fit the Panhard rod as I think it should fit.

Has anyone solved this problem?

My current thinking is I could shorten the plate and remount it by drilling into the Panhard rod cross brace and using rivnuts. The plate will most certainly not go back on with the cross brace installed as there is a welded web preventing it relocating as it came off.

Thanks


Not one of mine then...

Basically, with the external pump +8’s then you do need to modify the fuel pump mounting sheet as you described

Not sure what you mean by “web” though....


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Re: Panhard Conundrum [Re: Grumpy2] #648468
03/07/20 09:31 PM
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unfortunately not - did have a look on your website but its under construction

Theres a small web from the transverse square section to the flat chassis plate - 6mm? runs vertically down and would cause the mounting sheet to deform excessively.

I'm happy to modify the mounting plate just needed a bit of reassurance

ps - the rad is performing perfectly.

Last edited by Grumpy2; 03/07/20 09:53 PM.

94 plus 8 in Westminster Green - I think!
Re: Panhard Conundrum [Re: Grumpy2] #648471
03/07/20 09:36 PM
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I did not have to make any modification fitting a Panhard Rod to my 95 +8. The only problem I had was that the first one I purchased from Libramotive had a pivot point on the wrong side of the car, so that when it moved it was going to chop through the fuel tanks outlet pipe. Peter Mulberry exchanged it for one with the pivot on the correct side. It may be that the aluminium plate on mine is mounted differently. I will see if I can take a photo. Will be a welcome relief from fitting a Surrey flange to my hot water cylinder (other county flanges are available)


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Re: Panhard Conundrum [Re: teknome] #648478
03/07/20 10:33 PM
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Good luck with the 'flange' ... no pressure there!!


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Re: Panhard Conundrum [Re: Grumpy2] #648484
03/07/20 11:23 PM
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Staffordshire UK
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Just fitted a panhard rod to my 1994 +8. You need the SSL swan neck p. rod which arches over the fuel pipe from the tank to the pump. Anchors on the opposite side to the fuel pipe and attaches to the leaf spring above the ally plate. The only mod was to drill a hole in the plate to clear the hex bolt attaching the cross brace to the leaf spring attachment plate when the axle moves downwards. Can provide pics if needed.


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Re: Panhard Conundrum [Re: Grumpy2] #648498
04/07/20 07:37 AM
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Chester, UK
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Pics would be good thanks

I've not done anything irreversible yet but theres no way the Panhard rod will go on without modifying that mounting plate so that will be the point of irreversibility, if thats a word?


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Re: Panhard Conundrum [Re: Grumpy2] #648503
04/07/20 08:02 AM
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Is it an SSL kit or a Mulfab one?


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Re: Panhard Conundrum [Re: Grumpy2] #648517
04/07/20 09:28 AM
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Chester, UK
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this is the kit I have (not sure of manufacturer but I think its a MULFAB- bought from Parts supplier)

[Linked Image]

and this is the web - more like 10mm

[Linked Image]

Last edited by Grumpy2; 04/07/20 10:19 AM.

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Re: Panhard Conundrum [Re: Grumpy2] #648522
04/07/20 09:44 AM
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And the plot thickens further. As others have said the fuel pipe is right in the way of the rod assembly. Back to the drawing board I [Linked Image]


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