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Turn signal #650584
14/07/20 05:26 PM
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One question: If you turn left or right at an intersection, does your turn signal also remain permanently on and must be reset manually? Mine stays on until I turn it off.

Best regards
Bernd

Added: It's a 1981 4/4 4 Siter with original indicator (it think)

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Morgan 4/4, 4 Sider RHD, Build 1981
Re: Turn signal [Re: Mc Black] #650585
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With the standard switchgear, it should self cancel if you have turned sufficiently (for example a 90 degree turn should be plenty).


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Re: Turn signal [Re: Mc Black] #650609
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Bernt

Can you tell us the year and model of your Morgan as it would help answer your query

Arwyn

Re: Turn signal [Re: Mc Black] #650610
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Originally Posted by Mc Black

One question: If you turn left or right at an intersection, does your turn signal also remain permanently on and must be reset manually?

Best regards
Bernd


My '72 resets itself, so I imagine your '81 will. However, as Paul says, it is dependant on 'amount' of wheel movement.

Is it a standard indicator stalk?

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When living in Texas, I learned that using indicators, is considered a sign of weakness.


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Re: Turn signal [Re: Mc Black] #650614
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I love my indicators so much I used to leave them on.......self cancelling can be a little sporadic if there's not a full turn of the wheel.

Now fitted a little gizmo that starts beeping after a while if I've left them on smile


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Re: Turn signal [Re: Mc Black] #650643
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There should be a little egg shaped alloy cam on the top of steering column immediately behind the steering wheel hub.

It is this cam contacting the ears on the indicator switch which causes the indicators to cancel.

Not sure if the cam came fitted to the upper steering column when Morgan sourced it or whether it was done in the factory. Its pretty crude so probably it is a factory part.

Now this cam is drilled and tapped to take a small grub screw - probably something like No8 or No10 UNC.

What happens us that the screw slackens or drops out, and the cam remains stationary whilst the steering column turns which means the signals aren't cancelled!

Kind regards

Arwyn

Re: Turn signal [Re: Arwyn Williams] #650719
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Thanks Arwyn for the info.

Bernd


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Re: Turn signal [Re: Mc Black] #651603
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Hello, when I'm right in the 1970/1980ies Morgan uses the usual british stuff, as Triumph, Austin, Jaguar, Mini and so on.
It was high-tech. My Mini was selfchanceling, my Mums Volkswagen not...

As bespoke there must be a nose at the boss that switches the indicatorstalks.

If you undo the boss you see the cuts in the mechanism. And you see the noses.

In cause there are some years after the build, may be the mechanismn is worn ( you can test it with the boss off) or there is no nose at the boss. That you will see too.

That is the switch. May be you've got the sharp edged model. When you have a look at the center you see the two whole
for the reset.

https://allbrit.de/etk_detail.asp?Artikelnummer=BAU5345


Greets René

Hallo, wenn ich mich richtig erinnere wurden in den 70/80igern in den Morgans die üblichen Lenkstockschalter montiert,
die alle Engländer hatten. Die hatten den High-Tech Rücksteller, der Billig Polo meiner Mutter nicht.

Wie beschrieben müssen dazu in der Lenkradnabe ein oder zwei Nasen sein.

Nachdem das Auto ja etwas älter ist kann es sein das der Mechanismus kaputt ist (das kann man bei demontiertem Lenkrad testen) oder es fehlt die Nase an der Nabe. Das sieht man.

Oben im Link ist der Hebel. Vermutlch hast Du aber die älteren etwas eckigeren Hebel. Wenn man genau hinschaut sieht man
in der Mitte die zwei ausfräsungen in die die Nase eingreift.

Gruß aus der Landeshauptstadt

René

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Re: Turn signal [Re: Mc Black] #651619
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Here you see it better:

http://www.minispares.com/product/Classic/Electrics/Switches,%20stalks/BAU5345.aspx?0912&ReturnUrl=/shop/classic/Electrics/Switches,~stalks.aspx%7CBack%20to%20shop

I think this part would fit if the mechanism is worn.

René


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