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Add power steering at aftermarket for new Plus 4 #654586
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I need some advise on how best to have a Morgan dealer (or equivalent), or Malvern factory, to add power steering to my new 110 Anniversary Plus 4. It would be an aftermarket add on, and I assume that since there is no other way to adjust steering stiffness on the existing car, it is possible to add power steering on the aftermarket. The steering is a lot stiffer than I anticipated. I would appreciate any help or past experience on how best to get this done (I am not a mechanic so I personally could not do it), and the typical costs I should expect. Thank you so much for any tips or ideas!
Norman
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Re: Add power steering at aftermarket for new Plus 4 [Re: norman] #654595
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Re: Add power steering at aftermarket for new Plus 4 [Re: norman] #654597
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Don't know about adding power steering but in the short term I would suggest the following - make sure all the front end linkge is greased up properly, try a couple of extra psi in the tyres, fit a larger diameter steering wheel.


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Re: Add power steering at aftermarket for new Plus 4 [Re: norman] #654599
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Good advise above and get the tracking checked - I know Richard Thorne has fitted quite a few cars with it RTCC.

My Plus 8 with a well lubricated standard front suspension has never appeared heavy, it sounds as if something is amiss or maybe you need a little longer to become accustomed to the car compared to your 4 wheeled sofa daily driver.


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Re: Add power steering at aftermarket for new Plus 4 [Re: norman] #654603
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I would advise contacting Cain at Wolf Performance as he has all the kit and experience to fit Hardchrome Kingpins, spiral grooves PB bushes and steering roller bearings, all of which will make a big difference and may solve the problem for you. Just one tight kingpin makes a dramatic difference to steering input loads.

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Re: Add power steering at aftermarket for new Plus 4 [Re: norman] #654609
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How many miles has the car done?

If it is less than 2K i would wait until it has as the steering does need to bed in and will free up a lot after a couple of thousand miles.

Re: Add power steering at aftermarket for new Plus 4 [Re: norman] #654610
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I have thought about this for my Roadster but decided not to (appropriate greasing etc). Have a look at EZ power steering, which I think some owners have fitted. I think Williams fit it.

Re: Add power steering at aftermarket for new Plus 4 [Re: norman] #654611
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Re: Add power steering at aftermarket for new Plus 4 [Re: norman] #654623
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I tried power steering on a roadster demonstrator and I was not very impressed. Without was much more direct and a better feeling to the road. I would not recommend it.


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Re: Add power steering at aftermarket for new Plus 4 [Re: norman] #654628
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I have a 2016 3.7 Roadster which had the factory fitted power steering as standard. I found the steering too light with little “feel” to the extent that I was never comfortable driving the car in a spirited manner! Having had three previous Morgans, 2 x Plus 4s and a Plus 8, none of which had or needed power steering I had the power steering on my Roadster taken off.
I then took the car to New Elms who modified the front suspension for me, fitted hard kingpins and the transformation was amazing. I now have much better steering feedback and whilst a little heavy at parking speeds once on the road or track it is light, positive and a delight to drive.
I agree with the comment above about giving it a couple of thousand miles if the car is new but, in the opinion of New Elms, few Morgan left the factory properly set up and getting the springing, camber etc properly sorted is essential if you want to get the best out of the car.
Having said all of the above, if you really want to go down the power steering route I would personally go for the mechanical hydraulic system rather than the electric option as fitted by the factory. This company are the specialists - https://www.classicdrivingdevelopment.co.uk/gal.asp?gID=26

Good luck!


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