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Re: pondering a new car [Re: Alistair] #658319
25/08/20 07:15 AM
25/08/20 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Alistair


It is a bit telling that there are so few cars being mentioned, perhaps we all consider the range these days a little underwhelming and all a bit samey.



As ever, Alistair, you have neatly summed up the issue. Not only are many cars alike, some are just badge engineered like VW, Audi, Skoda, SEAT.. And given the tediousness of looking and buying, the irritation of talking to shiny shoed car salesmen and the expense involved in the process, the least you need is to feel a bit interested or excited by what you are buying. And thats the bit that is missing when the large majority of cars are simply a 4 wheeled "white goods" to be switched on, used and then switched off just like the washing machine. For heavens sake, the only thing at all noteable about the Niro was the battery capacity!

Underwhelming? They dont whelm at all! ooo

Last edited by howard; 25/08/20 07:16 AM.
Re: pondering a new car [Re: howard] #658332
25/08/20 08:06 AM
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Northamptonshire UK
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Originally Posted by howard
Originally Posted by Alistair


It is a bit telling that there are so few cars being mentioned, perhaps we all consider the range these days a little underwhelming and all a bit samey.



As ever, Alistair, you have neatly summed up the issue. Not only are many cars alike, some are just badge engineered like VW, Audi, Skoda, SEAT.. And given the tediousness of looking and buying, the irritation of talking to shiny shoed car salesmen and the expense involved in the process, the least you need is to feel a bit interested or excited by what you are buying. And thats the bit that is missing when the large majority of cars are simply a 4 wheeled "white goods" to be switched on, used and then switched off just like the washing machine. For heavens sake, the only thing at all noteable about the Niro was the battery capacity!

Underwhelming? They dont whelm at all! ooo


Nail on head, there..


Steve
Re: pondering a new car [Re: howard] #658343
25/08/20 08:37 AM
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What Howard needs is a Morgan.
That would justify all his postings on this forum.


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now: Red 4/4 Sport; 2011
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Re: pondering a new car [Re: howard] #658361
25/08/20 10:23 AM
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Agreed.


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Re: pondering a new car [Re: howard] #658368
25/08/20 10:42 AM
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South Oxfordshire
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So long as it’s black


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Re: pondering a new car [Re: SFG] #658474
25/08/20 06:28 PM
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howard Offline OP
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Originally Posted by SFG
So long as it’s black


I am not an undertaker.

Re: pondering a new car [Re: Mkiss] #658494
25/08/20 07:46 PM
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Aerdenhout, The Netherlands
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Originally Posted by Mkiss
Knowing the Audi programme pretty well - it is the S3 to be recommendet.
If you loved the Elise - that is the one for you.
The S1 one is a fantastic sportscar. I have never seen one who is able to drive it in a calm manner.
The S3 is a true multi tool!

Had two of them...


My wife has a red S3 and we both love it very much. You can drive it very PC and as a hooligan.


2009 Roadster, Lancia midnight blue, cinnamon upholstery.
Re: pondering a new car [Re: howard] #658507
25/08/20 08:57 PM
25/08/20 08:57 PM
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Hampton Hill, Middx.
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Originally Posted by howard
Originally Posted by SFG
So long as it’s black


I am not an undertaker.


I'm sure you could also add brass handles and a plush red interior!


David
Aero S4
Re: pondering a new car [Re: The Austrian] #658520
26/08/20 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by howard
I'm thinking of a saloon equivalent of the PlusFour in the sense that its light, small, and as far as is possible these days is anti technology. I understand the greasy bits. I dont understand those based on electrons migrating across barriers betweeen dissimilar metals . And I do not want any sort of infotainment - if I want music then I sing to myself. laugh2 And sometimes the dog joins in!


Sounds like a Frontline Abingdon GT to me.

Originally Posted by The Austrian
What Howard needs is a Morgan.
That would justify all his postings on this forum.


Agreed.

So a matching Frontline Abingdon GT and Morgan PlusFour sounds the perfect solution to me. Surely with both workshops/factories being pretty close it wouldn't be that hard to get them to co-ordinate paint, leather etc.

Re: pondering a new car [Re: howard] #658541
26/08/20 08:14 AM
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YORK
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I may have mentioned before but the only non Morgan car I would happily change my +4 SuperSports would be the Frontline MGBGT !!!!

It has the same engine as my car and is beautifully built with that classic Italian design .

I have been lucky enough to drive one and to me it is perfect in everyway !!!...a real sleeper that looks somewhat different to a normal MGBT but it takes a lot of studying to see the subtle visual differences.

Loved it instantly..

Now a +4 SS shooting brake would also work for me...must ring John Wells about a project !!


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