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Early wheel removal #659197
29/08/20 09:53 AM
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I don’t mean early in the day but an early S1 centrelock.

What do You guys use?

previously I’ve welded a 1/2” drive socket to the big removal tool and used a big bar but still difficult.

I’ve bought a strong 3/4” drive bar but need a 3/4” socket to weld to the tool though in this car the tool doesn’t lend itself to be able to weld anything to it


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Re: Early wheel removal [Re: Viper] #659207
29/08/20 10:38 AM
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I have a leverage bar and socket for the nut as part of the car toolkit in the boot. Seems part of the car as there are brackets etc attached to the carpet to hold in place. Is that not in all series 1's?

I've never used it myself as the thought of getting the reset of the grub screw wrong and seeing my own wheel racing me down the road doesn't appeal!😁

Re: Early wheel removal [Re: Viper] #659208
29/08/20 10:47 AM
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Yes I have the bar but they bend. Not strong enough.


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Re: Early wheel removal [Re: Viper] #659209
29/08/20 11:13 AM
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- check out this thread here Lee (see my posts on the thread for details) -

http://www.talkmorgan.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/367916/1

I don't know if Lionel is still making the wheel nut sockets ,but if he is, they are a thing of beauty.... notworthy

James


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Re: Early wheel removal [Re: Viper] #659213
29/08/20 11:26 AM
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For me this works every time. Put the big socket on the nut,put the bar through in the slightly up from horizontal position stand on the end adjust your weight and get someone to tap the big socket with a mallet or hammer. The bar will bend slightly but will eventually loosen . To re assemble, mark the wheel with a narrow felt tip or pencil above the slot for the grub screw re alignment has to be spot on. If the screw is out slightly put the bar in the horizontal position put a jack under the bar and adjust the screw hole by extending the jack. If the grub screw is fitted and goes in flush it is offset it must go into the slot and the screw goes in a little bit further down the thread. It's a bit of a faff but anybody can put a wheel on and stick the grub screw in without lineing up that's why wheel's have come off in the past. Hope this help's.

Re: Early wheel removal [Re: Viper] #659239
29/08/20 02:10 PM
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Thanks guys.

Yeah I’ve contacted Lionel and he’s sending one. He’s a top geeza.

I understand the tapping of the bar with a hammer etc but I have a long 3/4 drive bar and I think it might be better for me.


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Re: Early wheel removal [Re: Viper] #659252
29/08/20 04:00 PM
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I’ve got an 8ft length of 50 x 25 mm steel box section, with the correct socket welded on the end for loosening
I sheared one of Lionels aluminium ones in half....
And a 3/4 drive torque wrench for tightening them back up
400lbft isnt something that should be guessed at....


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Re: Early wheel removal [Re: Viper] #659254
29/08/20 04:18 PM
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Oh. That doesn’t sound encouraging. Probably why the original ones are steel


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Re: Early wheel removal [Re: Viper] #659330
30/08/20 08:55 AM
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An F1 wheelgun? I was tempted by a couple of F1 bits when Caterham F1 went bust. There were some tasty bits in the auction. No engines but some cool stuff.


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Re: Early wheel removal [Re: sospan] #659357
30/08/20 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sospan
An F1 wheelgun? I was tempted by a couple of F1 bits when Caterham F1 went bust. There were some tasty bits in the auction. No engines but some cool stuff.


Paoli wheel guns and the like are frighteningly expensive, and they need to run at much higher air pressures than conventional compressors can produce ( we ran ours off of compressed air bottles for the Aero in British GT and Britcar), and we still double checked them with a torque wrench....


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