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Re: does anyone understand the covid rules? [Re: Peter J] #661216
09/09/20 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter J
The latest rules are pointless, they serve only to cause more fear and worry.


Peter,
Isn't this the point though, as anything milder may not jog people back to thinking about the sensible measures that are proved to work?
I'm with you on the thinking but unlike the seasonal flu wasn't the danger of this virus that, if uncontrolled, the excess death rate could spiral out of control?
ps. really like your avatar which would make a great COVID mask!


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Re: does anyone understand the covid rules? [Re: howard] #661219
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I don't see a problem, we have chosen not to mix and will continue to do so until a proven vaccine arrives.

The Dominic Cummings precedent (approved by Doris) is available to anyone that fancies their chances of exposure, I encourage it as it will reduce the burden on pensions grin2


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Re: does anyone understand the covid rules? [Re: howard] #661220
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I don’t have a problem with it, this is a pretty good guide

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51506729

The numbers are increasing, the government have to do something because as we have seen large portions of the community can’t be trusted to do the right thing. It’ll be a step by step thing to prevent a total lockdown again and keeps schools and businesses open.

I assume those who object to increasing restrictions haven’t lost someone near to them or know a friend or relative who suffered
I have.

Having said that I think the devolved Parliaments should have a conjoined approach, the track and trace is a joke and testing availability is laughable.
I would humbly suggest that many on here are in the age group that whilst no longer the most likely to catch it are in the category that will suffer the worst.

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Re: does anyone understand the covid rules? [Re: +8Rich] #661221
09/09/20 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by +8Rich
I don't see a problem, we have chosen not to mix and will continue to do so until a proven vaccine arrives.


Yep, us too.


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Re: does anyone understand the covid rules? [Re: Neptune] #661223
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Originally Posted by Neptune
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I would humbly suggest that many on here are in the age group that whilst no longer the most likely to catch it are in the category that will suffer the worst.


We are of an age group that is at risk of my things....including flu and heart lung issues, diabetes, various cancers and a multitude of ways of dying: Covid is just one more to add to the list.
A family friend died a couple of weeks ago, massive heart attack in his sleep. Age 65.
Another friend is 4 years into endometrial cancer, same age and the prognosis isn't good.
Our neighbour lost her father, age 72, last week.
My 65 year old sister has had one TIA, it looks as if she has just had another.
As we approach 70 death and suffering is all around us.

I don't worry about any of these, other than feel sad that anyone younger than me has died, and I will not worry about Covid.


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Re: does anyone understand the covid rules? [Re: +8Rich] #661225
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Originally Posted by +8Rich
I don't see a problem, we have chosen not to mix and will continue to do so until a proven vaccine arrives.

The Dominic Cummings precedent (approved by Doris) is available to anyone that fancies their chances of exposure, I encourage it as it will reduce the burden on pensions grin2


We are the same been to the pub once and sat in the beer garden, most of the food shopping on line and stick to the rules.


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Re: does anyone understand the covid rules? [Re: howard] #661237
09/09/20 12:45 PM
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IMy parents have been able to isolate easily. They are together, they are both retired and have a reasonably sized detached house with garden. They order all there food online, and can have it delivered easily during the day. They can plan trips out, as my Mum still drives and they have a National Trust membership. They can plan their day around 'quiet' times.

Those who are working all day, live in small houses/flats with no outdoor space, either singularly or multiple occupancy, may have more need to go out and socialise at busier times.


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Re: does anyone understand the covid rules? [Re: Peter J] #661240
09/09/20 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter J
Originally Posted by Neptune
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I would humbly suggest that many on here are in the age group that whilst no longer the most likely to catch it are in the category that will suffer the worst.


We are of an age group that is at risk of my things....including flu and heart lung issues, diabetes, various cancers and a multitude of ways of dying: Covid is just one more to add to the list.
A family friend died a couple of weeks ago, massive heart attack in his sleep. Age 65.
Another friend is 4 years into endometrial cancer, same age and the prognosis isn't good.
Our neighbour lost her father, age 72, last week.
My 65 year old sister has had one TIA, it looks as if she has just had another.
As we approach 70 death and suffering is all around us.

I don't worry about any of these, other than feel sad that anyone younger than me has died, and I will not worry about Covid.


Fair enough - but unlike Coronaviruses diseases like diabetes, COPD, cancer, and strokes are not highly contagious.

I'm quite relaxed about the risks of death or incapacity caused by my own poor lifestyle choices, but less enthusiastic as to the prospect of going down due to those of others.

But then again, we're extremely happy keeping the rest of the world at bay, we have very little motivation to go out even when there's no risk so CV19 is a great excuse smile


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Re: does anyone understand the covid rules? [Re: howard] #661244
09/09/20 01:17 PM
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Most of you are missing the point of my frustration. The new rules are legally enforceable and fineable. But no one seems to know what they are. Its a bit like having fines for speeding without having any posted speed limits.

Re: does anyone understand the covid rules? [Re: howard] #661248
09/09/20 01:39 PM
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What are the new rules on socialising?
The new limit of six people will apply to social gatherings from Monday.
It will apply both indoors and outdoors, and to all ages.
So, meeting up socially in private homes, venues like pubs and restaurants, and in outdoor spaces like parks will all be affected.
At present, the rules allow up to 30 people from two households, or six from multiple households, to meet outdoors.
Current guidance says you should only socialise indoors with members of up to two households.

Will any social events of more than six be allowed?
Some gatherings of more than six people will be allowed, for example:
If your household or support bubble is larger than six
Where gatherings are for work or education purposes
Weddings and funerals
Team sports organised in a way limiting the spread of coronavirus
A full list will be published before the law changes on Monday

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