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Re: Suffolk Cars [Re: GRB] #661250
09/09/20 02:01 PM
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+2 to that N22MOG. We have two SUV’s as well as our 3.7 Roadster and an F458 within our household, I wonder how many low sports cars Peter J has owned. The above rather offending comments are the reason I very rarely contribute on this site.
Sorry on this occasion I just couldn’t resist reacting.

Re: Suffolk Cars [Re: N22MOG] #661312
09/09/20 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by N22MOG


Mine is definitely not a fashion statement but, as I said earlier, a highly practical vehicle for my needs. I suppose I could buy a minibus and avoid the SUV hatred.
I must be the exception to the rule because I drive an SUV AND a Morgan (and SWMBO’s Porsche) and am terrified of none of them.

Come on guys let’s drop this “all SUV drivers are ridiculous” attitude and judge each individual on their merits rather than broad sweeping generalisations. It’s a bit like saying all Morgan drivers are old farts stuck in the past wearing flat caps and smoking pipes (with apologies to any Morgan owners who wear a flat cap and smoke a pipe) laugh2
I don’t normally get on my soapbox but this is one subject that gets my goat soapbox

Re: Suffolk Cars [Re: ChrisConvertible] #661336
09/09/20 08:35 PM
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I used to drive a small car but I have now decided that the possibility of a collision with a SUV could be very dangerous. I have therefore decid to buy something suitable for survival on today's roads.

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Re: Suffolk Cars [Re: ChrisConvertible] #661339
09/09/20 08:40 PM
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Ah a cute little Ferret, try keeping that down your trousers!


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Re: Suffolk Cars [Re: Peter J] #661454
10/09/20 01:13 PM
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How did we get from Jaguar SS100's to SUV'S? That is like changing the topic from Chocolate to Brussels Sprouts.

Originally Posted by Peter J
I think cars should be taxed not only by their CO2, but also by the space they occupy on the road, length x width, and by their weight. I suspect that this would result in SUVs falling out of favour.....



In Australia cars are taxed on their weight. But the difference is not enough to make anyone change cars, just enough to whinge about it.

You don't mention height, my thoughts are that pedestrians are much safer if the can see the traffic behind the car they are waiting for, whether that it is car behind the car or next to it in another lane. Many times i have seen a vehicle stop and wave a pedestrian across only for the pedestrian to nearly be cleaned up by a car in the inside lane. With the number of vans and SUV's I feel being a pedestrian is a less safe than when most cars were a lower height and generally could be seen over.

Re: Suffolk Cars [Re: ChrisConvertible] #661456
10/09/20 01:38 PM
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The problem with taxing cars based on weight is that electric cars are very heavy. A Tesla model X / Porsche Taycan is as heavy or heavier than a Range Rover which would undermine a drive towards Ev's.

Re: Suffolk Cars [Re: ChrisConvertible] #661459
10/09/20 01:51 PM
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Taxing by weight may not be politically expedient but in some ways not a bad idea ..... weight will reflect the wear and tear on the roads and, as weight more or less corresponds to amount of materials used, and amount of material relates to environmental impact of manufacture there's worse ways to share the tax burden. The fact that much of the environmental impact of EVs is 'out of sight out of mind' in the form of manufacture and generation, doesn't mean they should be allowed to breeze past it because politicians feel promoting EVs will make them look good.

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Re: Suffolk Cars [Re: ChrisConvertible] #661474
10/09/20 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisConvertible
How did we get from Jaguar SS100's to SUV'S? That is like changing the topic from Chocolate to Brussels Sprouts.

Originally Posted by Peter J
I think cars should be taxed not only by their CO2, but also by the space they occupy on the road, length x width, and by their weight. I suspect that this would result in SUVs falling out of favour.....



In Australia cars are taxed on their weight. But the difference is not enough to make anyone change cars, just enough to whinge about it.

You don't mention height, my thoughts are that pedestrians are much safer if the can see the traffic behind the car they are waiting for, whether that it is car behind the car or next to it in another lane. Many times i have seen a vehicle stop and wave a pedestrian across only for the pedestrian to nearly be cleaned up by a car in the inside lane. With the number of vans and SUV's I feel being a pedestrian is a less safe than when most cars were a lower height and generally could be seen over.

Oh the joys of the TM thread drift. You can never say this forum is boreing nor predicdable.


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Re: Suffolk Cars [Re: N22MOG] #661516
10/09/20 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by N22MOG
Originally Posted by Peter J


But as to SUVs.... they are largely fashion statements and it seems to me they are driven by people who would be terrified sitting in a Morgan.


Mine is definitely not a fashion statement but, as I said earlier, a highly practical vehicle for my needs. I suppose I could buy a minibus and avoid the SUV hatred.
I must be the exception to the rule because I drive an SUV AND a Morgan (and SWMBO’s Porsche) and am terrified of none of them.

Come on guys let’s drop this “all SUV drivers are ridiculous” attitude and judge each individual on their merits rather than broad sweeping generalisations. It’s a bit like saying all Morgan drivers are old farts stuck in the past wearing flat caps and smoking pipes (with apologies to any Morgan owners who wear a flat cap and smoke a pipe) laugh2
I don’t normally get on my soapbox but this is one subject that gets my goat soapbox


I totally agree with you. Sad that some on here have a rather blinkered view of SUVs. No doubt others have an equally blinkered view about old farts driving Morgans, two seater sports cars etc. Just because you drive something like a Morgan doesn’t necessarily make you a better driver than someone who drives a SUV or any other car for that matter.

And getting back to the topic of the sad demise of Suffolk Cars, I spent some time in their stand at Goodwood and loved both their cars and their enthusiasm. Sad that JLR have done this...they certainly have taken their time about it.

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Re: Suffolk Cars [Re: ChrisConvertible] #661537
10/09/20 09:30 PM
10/09/20 09:30 PM
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I have to say I really like an SUV as my daily drive, my current one is the fourth SUV in a row. They take up similar space as a large estate car on the road and in most car parks, ones I visit anyway. Current one also has sports car like performance with top speed of 170 odd and 0-60 in about 3.5 secs. Plus it was on a building site today and looks pretty good covered in mud smile Do I buy one because I'm vain or want the latest fashionable car more than likely 😁

As for Suffolk Cars, I do understand Jaguars point about IP but I'd of thought they must of been able to overlook this one compared to a mass production factory churning out fake cars. Real shame.

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