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Re: Buying a 1960 +4 [Re: Dutch] #662468
16/09/20 07:19 AM
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Dutch .... in my chequered motoring career I've had a number of cars with leaky rear crank bearings.... they"ve gone on and on regardless.... other than my wife's previous Audi I don't remember owning a completely oil-tight vehicle (and as my current fleet includes a Landrover Defender, grumpy old Iveco camper van and two classic motorcycles I can't see that changing in a rush) ..... the only issue would be if it leaked enough to contaminate the clutch plate ..... but as it sounds like a 'they all do that, Sir' issue with that engine it may just be another character foible of the car you live with.

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Re: Buying a 1960 +4 [Re: Dutch] #662491
16/09/20 09:28 AM
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Whatever happens , a rear crank seal is an engine out job and you'll need to budget for that in terms of both time and money. May be use it to get a bit of a discount on the purchase price

I'm not a big fan of leaving oil seals leaking, that oil will sooner or later make it's way into the clutch which will mean a clutch replacement as well.

There are a number of oil seal replacement kits on the market. When I replaced the one on my TR engine I used one from the TR Shop, much easier than soaking bits of felt or asbestos string in shellac!

Whether your crank will need machining, well I suppose this depends on how worn the sealing surface on the crank is. Bear in mind that serviceable second hand cranks for TR4 engines are in short supply so machining may be your only option

Arwyn

Re: Buying a 1960 +4 [Re: Dutch] #662495
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Completely agree with Arwyn regarding the leak .... I suppose my point was, if the car's a cracker and you want it, then, if the leak has been ongoing and stable you are likely to be able to get a couple of years+ of motoring out of it before you need to pull the engine out to fix .... gives you time to enjoy the car and plan that ... and, whatever the state of the clutch you'd just change it while the engine was out, as 90% of the cost of a clutch replacement is going to be getting at the thing, and that's already done.

Of course the drip could turn to a flood a month after you bought it and your nicely future-planned fix then becomes a pressing issue smile .... but that's all part of the joys of old car ownership .... as Arwyn says, might be worth using it to negotiate the price a little to offset any possible future work.

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Re: Buying a 1960 +4 [Re: Dutch] #662839
18/09/20 02:34 AM
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I decided to pass on the Plus 4. The leak was probably a minor problem but it could have turned into a major one if I had to have someone pull the engine.

The rest of the car was in fairly good shape. It ran like a top. Purred right along. All the gauges worked. The leather was a bit worn but not unexpected for a 60 year old car. A few minor chipped paint but over all the fit and finish was good.

But I've got a 2012 Morgan 3 Wheeler that slakes my Morgan thirst for the time being. :-)

Surprisingly enough it was bought 21 years ago at Northshore near Chicago where I got the 3 Wheeler.

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