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Re: Pembleton 4-wheeler? [Re: Jon G4LJW] #663448
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Brakes, who needs brakes!
They don't seem to be there do they. But I see after I did this that Richard says they are inboard.

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Re: Pembleton 4-wheeler? [Re: Jon G4LJW] #664010
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Originally Posted by pandy
Originally Posted by Rovert
Looking at about £38k on the road with a few extras, (presumably that includes the SVA). About the same price as a reasonably specified Sigma engined Caterham.

Probably good value for an ultra low volume car, but still a lot of money for a toy, particularly with re-sale value and therefore cost of ownership unknown.

Intriguing car.

No number plates at the front is that a cyclecar exemption.


Caterhams are such great value for money. Most vaguely equivalent fun cars (and I include the M3W in this) don't tend to compare well on what a Caterham costs.


I was about to sign up for a Caterham kit to build as a fun/track toy but bought a 4/4 instead. The night before I was browsing Morgans after remembering my dad showing me a Morgan he was doing some renovation on. It was a last minute change of mind to go Morgan. It was a good move as swmbo called the Caterhan a coffin on wheels whereas she has embraced Morgan ownership. She wouldn’t go in a M3W for similar reasons.


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Re: Pembleton 4-wheeler? [Re: Jon G4LJW] #664110
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The Blackjack Zero uses a VW gearbox set up to work as front wheel drive. I don't particularly like the style of the bodywork but the idea is certainly valid and the frame is well engineered.

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The web site still exists but there is a note:
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Richard Oakes designer and maker retired in June 2013. Since that time Blackjack zero kits have been unavailable.


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Re: Pembleton 4-wheeler? [Re: Jon G4LJW] #664113
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There is certainly more traction available from those tyres, but I agree that it does not look particularly attractive.

What would be the options for bringing the Pembleton T24's power/torque ratings up to M3W levels?

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If you could fit a 1400 cc Moto Guzzi California engine you would come close but the drive system would have to be replaced for sure and the frame, other than being altered, may have to be beefed up.

Putting an S&S engine in it would be out of the question as the torque pulses and vibration would destroy everything.


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Re: Pembleton 4-wheeler? [Re: sospan] #664121
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Originally Posted by sospan


I was about to sign up for a Caterham kit to build as a fun/track toy but bought a 4/4 instead. The night before I was browsing Morgans after remembering my dad showing me a Morgan he was doing some renovation on. It was a last minute change of mind to go Morgan. It was a good move as swmbo called the Caterhan a coffin on wheels whereas she has embraced Morgan ownership. She wouldn’t go in a M3W for similar reasons.


That's for sure.

My mate Chris has a Caterham. He can rarely get his swmbo to ride in it. We once went to an old car event with them, she came along with me in the Morgan and returned home in the Caterham. She remarked that she would happily go out in a Morgan if he felt like swapping the Caterham for one, but that Chris' car was just that bit too spartan and basic.

In comparison to a Caterham or M3W, a 4/4 is positively luxurious and practical.


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