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The App..... #664150
25/09/20 01:38 PM
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Grumpy2 Offline OP
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Downloaded the infamous NHS tracking app and all looks ok

But..

Stupid thing only tells you was the ‘risk’ is at your home postcode. Surely it’s not beyond the whit of the developers to have made this feature dynamic and change in response to your location, after all the app asks for access to location services on installation.

Yet another disaster snatched from the jaws of success


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Re: The App..... [Re: Grumpy2] #664157
25/09/20 02:07 PM
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And the Venue check-in doesn't work at Marks and Spencer cafes.


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Re: The App..... [Re: Grumpy2] #664168
25/09/20 03:00 PM
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Given the Government’s record on Covid IT and likewise the NHS and Governments p poor record on anything that involves Apps, PC’s,technology, IT and the like I’ll be waiting for a week or two to download it.
Given the silence around its launch compared to all the hoo-ha around its failed predecessor I think it’s wise

Re: The App..... [Re: Neptune] #664175
25/09/20 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Neptune
Given the Government’s record on Covid IT and likewise the NHS and Governments p poor record on anything that involves Apps, PC’s,technology, IT and the like I’ll be waiting for a week or two to download it.
Given the silence around its launch compared to all the hoo-ha around its failed predecessor I think it’s wise


+1


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Re: The App..... [Re: Grumpy2] #664184
25/09/20 03:34 PM
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Unless it has the ability to track you I see it as pretty pointless tbh I won't be bothering with it.

Another missed opportunity.

The local jungle telegraph down here in the sticks always proves to be far more accurate than any governmental ramblings..



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Re: The App..... [Re: Grumpy2] #664186
25/09/20 03:51 PM
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The App won't work with IOS 12......so forget it on older iPhones anyway.

Shame as I would have liked to use it but I'm not buying a new phone just for that.


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Re: The App..... [Re: Paul F] #664187
25/09/20 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul F
Originally Posted by Neptune
Given the Government’s record on Covid IT and likewise the NHS and Governments p poor record on anything that involves Apps, PC’s,technology, IT and the like I’ll be waiting for a week or two to download it.
Given the silence around its launch compared to all the hoo-ha around its failed predecessor I think it’s wise

+1

Me too, I suspect if you have the app & have stood near anyone in the next few weeks then the users will be bombarded with isolate / get a test / blabla, then 100,000's of the great unwashed will be wanting Covid tests...& overloading the Labs


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Re: The App..... [Re: Grumpy2] #664189
25/09/20 04:00 PM
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Works for me, although some customers have not put up the QR codes today but explanations below.

So how does the app work if it doesn’t collect personal data? The system works by using two different codes. Each day it creates a new code for your device which is stored on your phone. Then every 15 minutes it produces another random code that is shared and stored on the devices it communicates with via Bluetooth. All of these codes are deleted after 14 days.

When someone tests positive they can allow their phone to share the daily codes with other app users. The app does this by sharing the codes related to your phone with a central Department for Health and Social Care (DHSC) server that pushes the codes to every other phone with the app installed. Any codes sent to the DHSC server are deleted after 14 days. If there are matches and the risk score is high enough, people will get an alert saying they’ve been in touch with someone who tested positive.

If you book a test via the app it will generate a code that lets people link their test results with the app automatically. These test codes are deleted 24 to 48 hours after they’re created.

The app isn’t just about Bluetooth contact tracing though – this is where it differs from other apps around the world. It also allows people to check their symptoms against a list of current Covid-19 indicators provided by England’s chief medical officer. These include high temperatures, a new continuous cough, changes to sense of smell and taste, and more. Entering symptoms will result in an indication of whether someone will need to self-isolate.

The app also allows people to order a test through the NHS Test and Trace website, offers a countdown of how long people need to self-isolate for if they are doing so, and can provide risk levels in people’s local area (based on the first part of their postcode).

The way the app deviates most from others around the world is through its use of QR codes. Through an in-app camera function, which you will need to give permission to use, it is able to scan QR codes at venues and log where you have been. The government has made it possible for pubs, restaurants and other venues to create their own QR codes through a generator on its site.

Like the rest of the app, QR codes don’t send any information to a central server and they don’t store people’s personal information. They exist as a way for people to remember where they have been, in case they need to tell contact tracers their activities. The QR code function can be turned on and off in the app and it’s possible to delete the records they create.

QR code check-ins are stored on a phone for 21 days – this allows for 14 days for the virus to appear and seven days when people are most likely to be infectious.

If you don't bother to download it and use the app then stay indoors is you best bet to staying safe.

Re: The App..... [Re: IvorMog] #664196
25/09/20 04:21 PM
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Peter J Offline
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Originally Posted by IvorMog
The App won't work with IOS 12......so forget it on older iPhones anyway.

Shame as I would have liked to use it but I'm not buying a new phone just for that.



These are the devices that support IOS13...

Phone XS, XS Max, XR (2018)
iPhone X, 8 and 8 Plus (2017)
iPhone 7 and 7 Plus (2016)
iPhone 6S and 6S Plus (2015)
iPhone SE (2016)
iPod Touch, 7th generation (2019)


So the oldest compatible phone is the 6S from 2015. Clearly this app is aimed at the young who change every 24 months and those who don't keep their phones for longer than 4 or 5 years....


Peter,
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Re: The App..... [Re: Grumpy2] #664199
25/09/20 04:25 PM
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Salisbury, UK
Peter J Offline
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I've just downloaded it.
Given the few places I go it is doubtful I'll ever get the opportunity to scan a QR Code!


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