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Re: Workshop Note: LED Headlamps [Re: DaveW] #668417
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And note the skid marks


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Re: Workshop Note: LED Headlamps [Re: John V6] #668421
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Originally Posted by John V6
And note the skid marks

Oh no, do they show hide


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Re: Workshop Note: LED Headlamps [Re: TBM] #668428
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Originally Posted by TBM
Probably, I just get sick of the ever increasing race to the bottom.

People don't look properly - instead of encouraging and training them to use their eyes, we'll put the onus on the potential victim to make themselves brighter then, when they still get side swiped, we can blame them for 'not being bright enough'.

When every car/bike/rider is painted a compulsory luminous yellow, and carries a plethora of High Power spotlights, what are we going to do then?


I use LED sidelights as DRLs in my Asphalt Grey Morgan as an alternative to a luminous yellow respray :), but we are halfway there with LED headlights and sidelights standard on most and DRLs a requirement on new cars.

I've done a lot of driver training because of my job, but the vast majority of non vocational drivers don't and don't want to do any further training after passing their tests. If we cant encourage them I'm not sure therefore how we can make other drivers look properly.


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Re: Workshop Note: LED Headlamps [Re: CooperMan] #668432
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Originally Posted by CooperMan
Originally Posted by John V6
And note the skid marks

Oh no, do they show hide


I cant even see the motorcyclists trousers confused2


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Re: Workshop Note: LED Headlamps [Re: RobCol] #668433
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Originally Posted by RobCol
I've done a lot of driver training because of my job, but the vast majority of non vocational drivers don't and don't want to do any further training after passing their tests. If we cant encourage them I'm not sure therefore how we can make other drivers look properly.


Depressing isn't it. A general acceptance of the dumbing down of standards and skills. Eventually we'll have no choice but to sit in a driverless car as it'll be the only way 'the government' can keep us safe.


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Re: Workshop Note: LED Headlamps [Re: DaveW] #668443
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Just like everyone now expecting the government (AKA us) to help them out.


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Re: Workshop Note: LED Headlamps [Re: DaveW] #668447
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I don't thiink anyone is wanting the government to legislate us into driverless cars, just think it's something that will happen if we keep on accepting ever decreasing driving standards.....


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Re: Workshop Note: LED Headlamps [Re: TBM] #668449
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Originally Posted by TBM
Originally Posted by RobCol
I've done a lot of driver training because of my job, but the vast majority of non vocational drivers don't and don't want to do any further training after passing their tests. If we cant encourage them I'm not sure therefore how we can make other drivers look properly.


Depressing isn't it. A general acceptance of the dumbing down of standards and skills. Eventually we'll have no choice but to sit in a driverless car as it'll be the only way 'the government' can keep us safe.


Standards required to pass the UK driving test are still quite high though and the UK does have one of the best Road Safety records in the world.

However until we have driverless cars we can still enjoy driving our Morgan's which do at least require some skill to drive safely, which also applies to the new Plus Four and Sixes looking at some of the recent test drive statistics!



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Re: Workshop Note: LED Headlamps [Re: RobCol] #668451
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Originally Posted by RobCol


Standards required to pass the UK driving test are still quite high though and the UK does have one of the best Road Safety records in the world.



Whilst I don’t disagree with this statement, I do think that the vast majority of people take no interest whatever in their driving once they have passed a driving test. As members of this forum, we are probably very much in the minority in caring about the standard of our driving.


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Re: Workshop Note: LED Headlamps [Re: Paul F] #668453
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Originally Posted by Paul F
Originally Posted by RobCol


Standards required to pass the UK driving test are still quite high though and the UK does have one of the best Road Safety records in the world.



Whilst I don’t disagree with this statement, I do think that the vast majority of people take no interest whatever in their driving once they have passed a driving test. As members of this forum, we are probably very much in the minority in caring about the standard of our driving.


I'd agree, and this is why I think driverless cars will have quite an appeal for many drivers. The current levels of driver assistance are proving very popular, and I see no reason why the trend shouldn't continue.


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