14 registered members (RedThree, HeadlessBlue, MJF, Dave Collis, Ian Wegg, Randall, pandy, griffo, JohnHarris, BLUE+4, Cuna2016, Jonathan G, SimonH, kankeL),
146
guests, and 16
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jigsaw
by David_E. 24/01/21 03:49 PM
|
|
Forums34
Topics40,336
Posts672,192
Members7,333
|
Most Online1,033 Dec 28th, 2019
|
|
|
Battery...Again!
#668594
23/10/20 02:01 PM
23/10/20 02:01 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 13,412 Salisbury, UK
Peter J
OP
Formerly known as Aldermog
|
OP
Formerly known as Aldermog
Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 13,412
Salisbury, UK
|
In April 2019 I replaced the original Banner battery, it was 5 years old, so a reasonable life.
The new battery was a YUSA HSB075, from Halfords, with a 5 year guarantee. In October it was going flat regularly, alternator charging properly, so Halfords replaced it, under warranty. Now, a year later, it is holding charge for no more than a week, today after 8 days in the garage it is showing 6.2v, so on charge again.
Back to Halfords, but I'm getting a mite fed up with this. I'll get Williams to check the charging rate and voltage, I can't believe that the car is pulling any power with the ignition off: the only device that is "always on" is the radio, it needs a non switched power line to retain station memory.
Any thoughts, collective?
Peter, V8s are best.... Tarka the 'Otter Mog....2014 Plus 8 AMG C63 Estate.
|
|
|
Re: Battery...Again!
[Re: Peter J]
#668595
23/10/20 02:09 PM
23/10/20 02:09 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 454 Germany, Rhein-Main Area
xc68anc
Learner Plates Off!
|
Learner Plates Off!
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 454
Germany, Rhein-Main Area
|
If your MOG has the factoryfitted immobilizer that‘s the problem.
The factory itself writes in the manual „if the car is out of use for more than three! days connect it to a charger.
My BANNER battery does her work after two years with a time out of use for a week.
My expierence with cheap batteries is very worse. They would work in a daily, but not under „toy conditions“.
René
2018 plus4
|
|
|
Re: Battery...Again!
[Re: Peter J]
#668598
23/10/20 02:15 PM
23/10/20 02:15 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 680 Lancashire
RobCol
Talk Morgan Regular
|
Talk Morgan Regular
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 680
Lancashire
|
Although Yusa appear to be a good quality battery, I would go back to Halfords and ask them to replace it with another make a offer to pay the difference if necessary.
Wouldn't Halfords be able to check your alternator was charging properly?
Rob
4/4 Sport Grey
|
|
|
Re: Battery...Again!
[Re: Peter J]
#668601
23/10/20 02:38 PM
23/10/20 02:38 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 18,792 Suffolk
John V6
Member of the Inner Circle
|
Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 18,792
Suffolk
|
Ages ago my wife's Golf did this. We found an earth leakage on the headlight switch. Good luck as this stuff is very hard to find. We only discovered it when the switch failed & the problem stopped. Do you have a trickle charger? That might help
JohnV6 2006 Indigo Blue Roadster S1 2014 Brooklands Edition Roadster "Brookland's Belle" #5 of 50
|
|
|
Re: Battery...Again!
[Re: Peter J]
#668608
23/10/20 02:49 PM
23/10/20 02:49 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 13,412 Salisbury, UK
Peter J
OP
Formerly known as Aldermog
|
OP
Formerly known as Aldermog
Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 13,412
Salisbury, UK
|
The car has no immobiliser... I think the next step is to charge the battery and turn off the "master switch", all Aero 4s have this on the front of the electronics box. If the battery still discharges it is the battery and yes, I'll go back to Halfords. But if it stays charged then it is a "car issue"..... It is booked into Williams next month for Service, MOT, etc, so they can see what they can find...
Joy.
Peter, V8s are best.... Tarka the 'Otter Mog....2014 Plus 8 AMG C63 Estate.
|
|
|
Re: Battery...Again!
[Re: Peter J]
#668609
23/10/20 03:05 PM
23/10/20 03:05 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,515 Powick
tmg513
Talk Morgan Expert
|
Talk Morgan Expert
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,515
Powick
|
Disconnect the negative terminal on the battery and bridge it with an ammeter to find if there's a drain.
1972 4/4 2 Seater
|
|
|
Re: Battery...Again!
[Re: Peter J]
#668626
23/10/20 04:36 PM
23/10/20 04:36 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 3,424 East Harling, Norfolk UK
RichardV6
Talk Morgan Addict
|
Talk Morgan Addict
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 3,424
East Harling, Norfolk UK
|
Or you could find the keep alive fuse(s) for the ECU or BCU. Remove and put your ammeter set to 10A range across the socket(s). You might be surprised  ETA: if the battery has been allowed to drain to an incredibly low six volts it will have taken a fair chunk of its life due to sulphation. It might not even take a charge now. Whatever, I would keep quiet about that if looking for a replacement from Halfords. Note also it's the battery that determines the charge current. The alternator is just regulated to a max voltage - you should be seeing at least 14.4 volts on a near fully charged battery at a fast idle, measured at the battery terminals ideally.
Last edited by Richard Wood; 23/10/20 04:47 PM.
Richard
2018 Roadster - Red/Magnolia - "Morton" 1966 Land Rover series 2a SWB 1960 Velocette Venom
|
|
|
Re: Battery...Again!
[Re: Peter J]
#668636
23/10/20 05:27 PM
23/10/20 05:27 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 26,269 Devonshire
+8Rich
Member of the Inner Circle
|
Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 26,269
Devonshire
|
I have a clip on current meter that plugs into my Fluke which is worth purchasing for your workshop they are very handy bits of kit, far safer than disconnecting batteries and taking fuses out and it is a perfect interface/buffer for your meter. Or this sort of stand alone device.
Regards Richard
1999 Indigo Blue +8 2009 4/4 Sport Green prev 1994 Connaught Green +8 prev
|
|
|
Re: Battery...Again!
[Re: Peter J]
#668660
23/10/20 07:38 PM
23/10/20 07:38 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 467 Hampton Hill, Middx.
DavidR
Learner Plates Off!
|
Learner Plates Off!
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 467
Hampton Hill, Middx.
|
Peter, I have been told that if you store your ignition key to close to the vehicle when not in use, then some part of the electrical system doesn't shut down fully. I'm an electrical numpty so can't comment directly, but find it helps with mine to keep the two apart. I had no success with a Ctek and have reverted to a Halfords smart charger, which so far works a treat and keeps it starting happily.
David Aero S4
|
|
|
Re: Battery...Again!
[Re: DavidR]
#668688
24/10/20 07:22 AM
24/10/20 07:22 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 62 Preston, Lancashire
Saxonian
Just Getting Started
|
Just Getting Started
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 62
Preston, Lancashire
|
had no success with a Ctek and have reverted to a Halfords smart charger, which so far works a treat and keeps it starting happily.
Oh don't say that .... I just ordered one last night.......... 
Ian S
2019 Sports Green Morgan Plus 4 2019 Gunmetal Mercedes 220 CLA
|
|
|
|