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Front suspension lubrication questions #669023
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I'm thinking of removing the 1 shot lubrication system on my 4/4. Can anyone tell me the blanking plug size to use to block off the outlets of the valve and the top of the suspension struts.

Also what is the recommended grease to use on the grease points at the front (and elsewhere)? When I picked up the car from Williams they look to have used a red looking grease. Not seen that before!

Re: Front suspension lubrication questions [Re: thelastgizmo] #669024
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Grease is red n tacky,

1/8 BSP for the fittings.

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Re: Front suspension lubrication questions [Re: thelastgizmo] #669025
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Fittings should be 1/8 BSP(P)

I use 'bush and pin' grease, much cheaper than Red and Tacky

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Re: Front suspension lubrication questions [Re: thelastgizmo] #669026
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Here's the thread from when I removed.

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Re: Front suspension lubrication questions [Re: thelastgizmo] #669027
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Thanks for the prompt replies guys. I'll get some blanking plugs. Are any sealing washers needed? Tapered tips or anything? I've seen plenty of parallel thread plugs. As you can see I'm not into hydraulics!
Where did you get your pipe from TBM? Ebay?

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Originally Posted by thelastgizmo
Thanks for the prompt replies guys. I'll get some blanking plugs. Are any sealing washers needed? Tapered tips or anything? I've seen plenty of parallel thread plugs. As you can see I'm not into hydraulics!
Where did you get your pipe from TBM? Ebay?


I put grease nipples in the tip of the kingpins, not to grease, but just to keep the crud out.

IIRC I used flat blank plugs, but put small ball bearings in first, No washers.

The pipe was from Ebay - I'll try and find some links.


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Re: Front suspension lubrication questions [Re: thelastgizmo] #669035
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This is the pipe Pipe


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Re: Front suspension lubrication questions [Re: thelastgizmo] #669042
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Williams used to use and supply Millers Deltaplex 2EP which is a red lithium based grease and is also good for prop shaft and wheel splined hubs. Other alternatives are of course Red n Tacky (which is also EP rated), or Miller Delta 2EP which is similar but brown in colour. The important identifier is the “EP” which rates the product for extreme pressure usage.


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Re: Front suspension lubrication questions [Re: thelastgizmo] #669045
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I once had to replace a grease nipple a day before a trip to Italy. I have a box full of different sizes if you want to come to Felixstowe.


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Re: Front suspension lubrication questions [Re: thelastgizmo] #669070
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I have no personal experience with Red 'n Tacky, but I am curious about why it is so frequently mentioned as a superior product.
However, I use the charcoal coloured molybden-based grease. Cheap, you get it anywhere, any brand will do. It is supposed to be well suited to slower, gliding movements which is what you find in the sliding pillar compared to the higher speeds in for instance a wheel bearing. It also has less tendency to get washed away when driving in rain. My KPs and (Devol) bushings are ok after 41k km, so it cannot be totally wrong. Can also be used on the propshaft (two grease points in front, one in the rear, don't overdo it...) and most likely at the two ends of the axle, if it is a Salisbury. The BTR axle has none. Lots of info at GoMog.


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