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Re: 3 wheeler width [Re: High Noon] #669703
29/10/20 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by High Noon
Thanks Michael!! ....i never thought of two tie downs on the back wheel, I was just thinking of one like I use on my other cars. That makes sense to keep it centered.

I purchased this quality all aluminum trailor just for the M3W late last year. They had a great end of the year sale going on and I bought it just in time. It weighs under 500 pounds and so easy to move around. Like someone mentioned above I have also been using it for all kinds of lightweight hauling duties! Quite handy....

Oh I forgot to mention, Morgan of Morgantown, West Virginia delivers within a reasonable distance and I was 3.5 hours away! So I didn't need my trailor this time around!

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I am trying to decide on an enclosed trailer or an open. Unfortunately I am trailer poor. I have 5 trailers and the two I use for my motorcycles are 10' trailers. One is enclosed and the other is open. I have a 20' car trailer but I don't want to drag that thing around. If only my enclosed trailer was at least a 12', I wouldn't be looking for a trailer.
How long and wide is the trailer you are using? Would a 7x12 trailer work or does it need to be a 7x14?
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Re: 3 wheeler width [Re: hugo] #669740
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what I do is take one tie down, do a loop around the rear wheel, and then connect to the other side. The loop holds it in place. All you really are doing with the rear wheel is preventing the rear end from drifting. On the front I do a wide angle to the front wheel frame so it is one half an X on one side and the other half on the other side. This is to prevent forward and backward movements.

My trailer is 7x12... it is tight but it fits. I do have to remove the two MC cholks I have to put on the M3w

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Re: 3 wheeler width [Re: WarBird] #669884
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Originally Posted by WarBird
I invested in a Hazelwood 2000c tilt bed trailer earlier this year and it's been fantastic. I bought it for transporting my M3W to race events. What is most impressive is the fact that my 1.2 litre Skoda Yeti is able to tow it when loaded up with all the race gear, camping equipment and up to 4 people.

I have used the trailer far more than I originally envisaged, not just for racing, and would definitely recommend to any M3W owner who has the space to keep a trailer


Warbird - correct me if I'm wrong but your 1.2 Yeti has a 1200 kg (?) max towing capacity, so with that trailer your 800 kgs overweight?

Re: 3 wheeler width [Re: Stevo666] #669885
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Originally Posted by Stevo666
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I invested in a Hazelwood 2000c tilt bed trailer earlier this year and it's been fantastic....


Warbird - correct me if I'm wrong but your 1.2 Yeti has a 1200 kg (?) max towing capacity, so with that trailer your 800 kgs overweight?

500Kg for the trailer and 550Kg for the M3W... total 1050Kg? "2000c" refers to the max gross weight... you'd want a new Defender at that max weight I expect! smile


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Re: 3 wheeler width [Re: PaulV] #669887
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Originally Posted by PaulV
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Originally Posted by WarBird
I invested in a Hazelwood 2000c tilt bed trailer earlier this year and it's been fantastic....


Warbird - correct me if I'm wrong but your 1.2 Yeti has a 1200 kg (?) max towing capacity, so with that trailer your 800 kgs overweight?

500Kg for the trailer and 550Kg for the M3W... total 1050Kg? "2000c" refers to the max gross weight... you'd want a new Defender at that max weight I expect! smile


But it doesn't matter what's loaded onto the actual trailer - its what the trailer is capable of carrying/rated at/stamped for - in this case 2000 kgs - so again in this case you could tow the trailer empty and your still be 800 kgs overweight.

Of course people get away with it until there's an accident, then if police involved you'll get the book thrown at you and your insurance could be void......

Re: 3 wheeler width [Re: Stevo666] #669945
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Originally Posted by Stevo666
Originally Posted by PaulV
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Originally Posted by WarBird
I invested in a Hazelwood 2000c tilt bed trailer earlier this year and it's been fantastic....


Warbird - correct me if I'm wrong but your 1.2 Yeti has a 1200 kg (?) max towing capacity, so with that trailer your 800 kgs overweight?

500Kg for the trailer and 550Kg for the M3W... total 1050Kg? "2000c" refers to the max gross weight... you'd want a new Defender at that max weight I expect! smile


But it doesn't matter what's loaded onto the actual trailer - its what the trailer is capable of carrying/rated at/stamped for - in this case 2000 kgs - so again in this case you could tow the trailer empty and your still be 800 kgs overweight.

Of course people get away with it until there's an accident, then if police involved you'll get the book thrown at you and your insurance could be void......



This is absolutely right. I just got my license this summer to tow with my F-Pace. There are many parameters to consider while towing a heavy trailer.

I guess this is the same all over the EU (outside the EU, I don't know how it works):

- To tow a trailer with a rated capacity over 750 kg (and these include the weight of the trailer itself) you need a special license other that the regular B driving one.

- If you get the B96 license (I just did it this summer) you can tow trailers rated above the 750 kg, but the sum of the maximum load capacity of the trailer and the towing car can't be over 4250 kg. My F-Pace has 2570 kg authorised maximum weight. And the trailer is rated / stamped for 1600kg. So I'm at 4170 kg and this is OK.

- If you get the B+E license, you can tow way more than 4250 kg. If you have a large SUV / 4x4 car, it might have a big authorised maximum weight, meaning that the B96 I have gets too short. So when I'll change my SUV next June, I have to be careful with the new car I buy paying attention to its authorised maximum weight, so I don't get over 4250 kg sum... Or I'll have to get the B+E license...

Tricky, sometimes complicated, but it's what's stamped / certified for the car and trailer what will count for insurances and getting a ticket or not...


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Re: 3 wheeler width [Re: hugo] #669963
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it always amazes me that in the states a person with a regular license can drive a HUGE mobile home or tow a 3 axle fifth wheel.... but I have to get a special endorsement to drive my motorcycle


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Re: 3 wheeler width [Re: rcmatt] #669970
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Originally Posted by rcmatt
it always amazes me that in the states a person with a regular license can drive a HUGE mobile home or tow a 3 axle fifth wheel.... but I have to get a special endorsement to drive my motorcycle


And then think about renting a fairly large truck or a motorhome without without anything except a regular automobile license.

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Re: 3 wheeler width [Re: Stevo666] #670041
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Originally Posted by Stevo666
But it doesn't matter what's loaded onto the actual trailer - its what the trailer is capable of carrying/rated at/stamped for - in this case 2000 kgs - so again in this case you could tow the trailer empty and your still be 800 kgs overweight.

Of course people get away with it until there's an accident, then if police involved you'll get the book thrown at you and your insurance could be void......

Hmmm. Sounds unlikely but then again I'm no expert ... eg see here... wink


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Re: 3 wheeler width [Re: PaulV] #670105
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Originally Posted by PaulV
Originally Posted by Stevo666
But it doesn't matter what's loaded onto the actual trailer - its what the trailer is capable of carrying/rated at/stamped for - in this case 2000 kgs - so again in this case you could tow the trailer empty and your still be 800 kgs overweight.

Of course people get away with it until there's an accident, then if police involved you'll get the book thrown at you and your insurance could be void......

Hmmm. Sounds unlikely but then again I'm no expert ... eg see here... wink


Well that was a good read. If that's correct then great for all but my experience with VOSA with car trailers has been different.....

The Yeti has a GCW of 3115 kgs and a GVW of 1915 kgs = 3115-1915 = 1200 kgs max allowable trailer weight - minus 500 kg (assumed trailer weight?) = 700kgs payload - so the M3W is just within limits, Just don't put anything bigger than an M3W on it.

Xavier - Licences for towing are a different scenario in UK, as long as you passed your UK driving test before 1997 and have cat B shown on the license then you have 'grandfather rights' and don't need to pass a trailer test.for any MAM (GVW of car and trailer plated weight) that are over 3500kgs. So most 3 wheeler owners would be fine... hide

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