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Third brake light #670443
02/11/20 01:38 AM
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I am sure this has been discussed but I have questions and thought if I started a new post, I would get some fresh ideas. I noticed today that this car sits low and the taillights are really low. I am thinking of finding a third brake light that is pedestal mounted and adding it between the roll hoops. Has anyone attempted this yet? I want to wire it into the brake lights. I have found a couple of these lights and it appears that I would have to make a mounting block due to the curvature of the back of the Morgan. Is anyone aware if there is a connection in the wiring loom for a third brake light? I know the Australian cars have a third brake light. I am not sure from the diagram exactly where it mounts. I really want this to be between the hoops to get as much height as possible. Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. For my fellow 3 wheeler friends across the pond, over here in the USA, some of our drivers get distracted. There is a lot going on while they drive such as, texting, taking selfies, posting on facebook, eating lunch, talking on the phone, etc.... Any safety lights I can put on the back of the car to help me get noticed would be a big help. So I will pursue this, hopefully someone has done all the leg work and I can just be lazy and follow their lead!

Re: Third brake light [Re: Hogzilla] #670445
02/11/20 01:58 AM
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Maybe mount on roll hoops, pretty high up and you do not have to drill any holes...


2016 M3W, Army Green Matte/Tan Leather, 15k miles
Re: Third brake light [Re: Hogzilla] #670446
02/11/20 02:31 AM
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The roll hoops get banged by a helmet Nd grabbed by hands in my machine. I opted for drilling a hole, don’t regret it at all. A pulsing (programmable) third lamp.
I would post the photo but I had it in this Forum before and the darn imaging program and my iPad are not playing well. Maybe a trip to my desktop.


Stephen
2019 M3W, AR Stage 2

Re: Third brake light [Re: kankeL] #670448
02/11/20 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by kankeL
Maybe mount on roll hoops, pretty high up and you do not have to drill any holes...


I just emailed a company that does motorcycle lighting. Told them what I was needing and wanting to do. I hope to talk with them this week. I want to make it clean and a part of the car as much as possible. Once I find something that will fit the area, I will see what it will take to mount it on the surface between the hoops. I am not thinking it will be difficult to do. I would like to ad day time running lights to the ca. I noticed when I was relocating the headlights that there was a spare wire in the headlight bucket. Is that for running lights? I would like to upgrade the headlights on this car as well. I want to get it ready for some long touring trips this coming spring

Re: Third brake light [Re: Hogzilla] #670450
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I put video in here so seldom I have quit trying to get it to play in the Post.

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Re: Third brake light [Re: Hogzilla] #670452
02/11/20 03:06 AM
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Do you really want wire going up the roll hoops? Or drill a hole for the wiring in the roll hoop?


Stephen
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Re: Third brake light [Re: Hogzilla] #670455
02/11/20 07:28 AM
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Check the Australian version. [Linked Image]


M3W5sp 2015, MSCC, MTWC, Oxon UK
Re: Third brake light [Re: Hogzilla] #670462
02/11/20 08:26 AM
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Because what you propose is factory fit on the Australian version as above, the standard loom already includes connections for it. Look for two way connector tucked away with green/purple and black cables. You will just need the lamp pod U340032 and pedestal T400037 and drill a hole of course.


Richard

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Re: Third brake light [Re: Hogzilla] #670474
02/11/20 10:41 AM
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Richard is correct. I ordered those part numbers a while ago and received the following:

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I found the finish on the aluminium upstand to be poor so this will require refinishing & polishing before fitting.

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I haven't got around to fitting it yet, partly because it goes against the grain to cut a 12mm hole in the bodywork. shocked2 Also, my car is a 2012 model so will almost certainly not have the necessary electrical connector in the wiring loom. Not a big problem I guess but another reason to put the project on the back burner for now!

By the way, in 2018 I paid Uncle Melvyn £38.31 for the lamp (U340032) and £8.67 for the pedestal (T400037). Both prices exclude VAT & delivery.

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Andy
Re: Third brake light [Re: Hogzilla] #670499
02/11/20 12:40 PM
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A third higher lamp will be for sure a nice safety DIY winter project.

But Hogzilla: consider that the kind of third lights shown in the pictures above have a "con": if you plan to travel and consequently use a luggage rack, this light will interfere with the rack and/or be hidden behind the luggage.

Check out my luggage set: it's not too tall but it would definitely hide any third lamp.

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But if you don't plan to travel ever with your 3-Wheeler, then this may never need a luggage rack and so many bags on it. Also if you travel solo, you can use the co-pilot's side and footwell to put your bags, and don't need again the luggage rack.

In our case we're two travelling with the 3-Wheeler, so we really need it.




Last edited by Marmota; 02/11/20 12:43 PM.

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