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Re: Battery...Again! [Re: Peter J] #673979
21/11/20 01:08 PM
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Peter J Offline OP
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The car uses a BMW engine and gearbox, plus power steering and A/C.
The various control modules are modified by MMC and they are wired into a CANBUS loom from a 1990s BMW 3 series, I understand.
The V8 was never installed into the 3 series, so there are MMC adaptations to the CANBUS Loom so that the engine can talk to the Morgan instruments and work with the Morgan ABS and Morgan airbags.
It is, in all honesty, a bit of a dog's dinner.

I don't think MMC has ever understood why the car drains power so, I was told that the Manual cars don't, so I assume that it is something to do with the Auto Box/Paddle shift control modules.
It isn't right and if it was a mainstream manufacture I'd expect answers.
But it is Morgan.and essentially a car that was developed in the early 2000s: with a charger I can live with it.


Peter,
V8s are best....
Tarka the 'Otter Mog....2014 Plus 8
AMG C63 Estate.


Re: Battery...Again! [Re: Peter J] #674019
21/11/20 05:09 PM
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Could you run a separate (in-line fused) live feed to the radio, to keep it alive even if you turn off the master switch ?


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Re: Battery...Again! [Re: CooperMan] #674031
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Jon, that's how both of my Plus 8's were wired which makes sense to me.
The 4/4 Sport didn't but no radio or Master switch until I fitted the later.


Regards Richard

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Re: Battery...Again! [Re: Peter J] #674070
21/11/20 10:42 PM
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Do the new CX Morgans have any similar issues?


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Re: Battery...Again! [Re: sospan] #674154
22/11/20 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sospan
Do the new CX Morgans have any similar issues?


A good question... !!
Next question.


Peter,
V8s are best....
Tarka the 'Otter Mog....2014 Plus 8
AMG C63 Estate.


Re: Battery...Again! [Re: sospan] #674192
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Originally Posted by sospan
Do the new CX Morgans have any similar issues?

I think as the years roll by, lots of CX owners will have electrical gremlins frown


Jon M
Re: Battery...Again! [Re: Peter J] #674643
25/11/20 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter J
I don't think MMC has ever understood why the car drains power so, I was told that the Manual cars don't, so I assume that it is something to do with the Auto Box/Paddle shift control modules


My manual does the same, so on a conditioner all the time. Dogs dinner it is.


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Re: Battery...Again! [Re: Peter J] #674648
25/11/20 12:51 PM
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Peter J Offline OP
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It is nice to know I'm not alone..... swear hide


Peter,
V8s are best....
Tarka the 'Otter Mog....2014 Plus 8
AMG C63 Estate.


Re: Battery...Again! [Re: Peter J] #674665
25/11/20 03:18 PM
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It is a feature sir


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Re: Battery...Again! [Re: Peter J] #674685
25/11/20 04:41 PM
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Everyone knows MMC use cheaper alternatives. They appear to be putting cheap electrons into the cars.


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